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BE A JERK TO HER!

If you aren't a jerk, just pretend to be one and watch the magic happen!

Are you that guy with the girl "friends" that tell you about all their problems with JOE BLOW?

what does joe blow have that you dont have?!!!

JOE BLOW is an a**hole isn't he?!?!!?

what does she see in joe blow?!?!?

Why does she keep going back to joe blow time and time again!?!?!?!

why doesn't she like YOU instead?!?!?!?

If you really want her, just be an a**hole from time to time!!! Hang up on her tell her you dont have time right now!

Watch what happens!!

Tell her you can't hang out and you're busy... HANG UP AGAIN!! I know its hard but just do it!! its fun!

It makes absolutely no sense!!! and dont try to make sense out of it!! This is just the way it is!! NICE GUYS FINISH LAST!!

Its some kind of caveman/cavewoman thing or something!! OOGA BOOGA!

I'm gonna stop using exclamation points now!

(this thread is not intended to treat any type of disease, please consult a doctor before trying any of the methods prescribed).

Of course there will be the girls that reply and say "well i want a guy who listens blah blah" don't listen to them. Just do as i say. They are just disinfo agents!!!

(not my opinion, something amusing I came across. But if you agree, do admit your cavemanhood)
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Rayzorblades · Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:07 am Post subject:

I know this thread is tongue in cheek, but I want to actually take a crack at the psychology here.

"Being a jerk will get you women" is sadly one of those empirically useless correlative observations. You see a guy being an asshole and women are all over him so you think being an asshole will get you women. Sadly this isn't actually how it works. Instead let's look at causation.

What comes along with being a jerk? Confidence, self-assuredness, doing what you want, when you want, how you want, not taking crap from people (although jerks tend to not take ANYTHING from people, it's the no-crap-taking most people pay attention to). It's THESE things that will get you women, not "being a jerk".

Seriously, how many jerks do you know who actually KEEP their girls for any length of time, don't have horrible reputations amongst the girls they've been with, and are legitimately liked by people all around them? I'll be surprised if anyone can seriously say a number higher than zero.

It's one of the reasons I laugh so hard at the PUA community. Sure they might be experts at "picking up" girls, but how about keeping them? Or having fulfilling relationships with them? Or sharing a life with someone you legitimately want to be with for more than a quick wet of your willie? They all tend to fail in this regard. It's pretty sad, because usually when they get older, they become either the sugar daddy or the creepy old guy, and may marry out of loneliness.

Anyway, like I said, I know your post was tongue in cheek Stein, and this wasn't directed at you; just some thoughts.
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ChuckNorris · Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:56 pm Post subject:

Couldn't agree more, RB.

Let's remember that there are several kind of jerks, several kind of nice guys and so on.
There are guys who are jerks because they don't take crap, are confident enough to not care with others thoughts. But there are jerks that are simply angry, jealous or plain stupid.
The same goes to nice guys. There are nice guys that are nice because they're begging for attention. Some others are nice because they feel good being nice. And that by being nice and feeling good because of it makes them feel confident.

I can assure you that the latter type of nice guy gets way more women than the angry jerk type.

But what can draw more women than a plain confident jerk or a confident nice guy?
Both of them!
It's boring if you're nice with them all the time. And frustrating to them if you're unavaiable all the time too. So, there are times you'll want to be a jerk and some that you'll want to be a nice guy.
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Rayzorblades · Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:52 pm Post subject:

I was going to comment about being "too nice" all the time and how it can come across as either "trying too hard" or being manipulative. Nobody likes being manipulated, or people who easily appear to be manipulators.

I think the real message to take from this is to just be yourself as much as you can. Do the things you like/want, act the way you want, and enjoy the things you want. It's all a prequalifier; if people can't accept you for who you are, then you don't want to associate with them anyway. And if they can, well then you've found a friend (or girlfriend) for life. Plus being yourself takes a lot less work than trying to keep up a constant facade.
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cocomilo · Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:15 am Post subject:

Ugh this is horrible advice HS. Why play stupid games? Any female will see through this charade. Do you even want to be with a female who will be attracted to this?
The only way you could get away with being a jerk is if you have the incredible looks/charisma of a movie/rock/sport star etc or you have supreme confidence.
Just be yourself and if you don't like that try to improve. Important get a sense of humour - make her laugh, be a fun person to be with, don't be desperate, stop moaning about your last girlfriend, smile (visit the dentist regularly and use breath freshener), good grooming - spoil yourself every 4 weeks and get your hair cut, beard trimmed (but preferably removed) a manicure, work out at the gym, get clothes that FIT. Be nice, but not desperate nice, be caring, be interested in her, stop boasting how good you are and take a genuine interest in her.

Rayzorblades · Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:13 am Post subject:

Keep in mind Coco that you're talking about generalizations and YOUR preferences.

If a guy only wants the type of women who like unshowered dirty people with bushy biker beards, then almost everything you said is unapplicable because those women won't be attracted to a clean-shaven guy with good hygiene.

Anyway, Stein's article was a repost which he showed as a joke, and I doubt it's how he actually feels/deals with women.

cocomilo · Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:24 am Post subject:

Haha Yes I stand corrected.
I was talking from a female viewpoint Laughing

I'm not a man.
I know HS was tongue in cheek but just in case anyone took it seriously..........

Shammuk · Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:17 am Post subject:

Rayzorblades · Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:17 pm Post subject:

That is essentially what I said in the next sentences yes. Wink

And yes, nothing wrong with using tools to aid you.
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Chii · Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:20 pm Post subject:

1. Have a healthy amount of selfishness.. focus that selfishness on screwing her and getting some from her. This will help radiate "alpha" vibes and it will assure her you are interested in girls and have a healthy sexual apetite.

2. Being selfish goes hand in hand with being a jerk...but just tone it down a bit...because face it.. you still have to be able to function in a basic relationship...i.e. smile -> talk -> bedroom =)

3. a) when it is ok to be a jerk = when she tries to steer the relationship to do things that would land you in the friends zone.
b) when its not ok = when things are happening and your on your way to getting laid.. you need a little intuition and experience here to figure it out.
c) just in case = if things are going too easy for too long...as in too good to be true.. shake things up a bit and introduce some form of "tension" by being a jerk.. it doesn't mean being rude or out of character.. it could be something as simple as a joke or simply being a little more Direct.

Rayzorblades · Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:08 am Post subject:

I dunno Chii, acting like "jerk" when she's trying to steer it into the friend zone screams "petulant crybaby" and would have most girls definitely move it there, or stop talking to you. Seen plenty of guys act like this when they zoned and the chick runs for the hills.

I personally would just be straight up honest and say "So I get the feeling you're trying to friend-zone me; yay or nay?" and if she says yay I'd just say "Well I'm not looking for friends right now, so I'll see you around when you figure it out". And then break off contact and let her pursue you if she's interested, it might change her mind. Life's too short to beat a dead horse and play childish games.

If she says nay but her actions say yay, continue to call her on it.

Communication and honesty are the most important things in any kind of relationship.
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psychonaut13 · Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:05 pm Post subject:

Rayzorblades · Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:32 pm Post subject:

Yes I agree about quantifying "jerk". Since, when I think of someone being friend zoned acting like a jerk, it's being moody, and grouchy, and intensely passive aggressive and manipulative. You know, being a jerk.

Chii · Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:43 pm Post subject:

LoL its not being a crybaby. Now, of course you still have to communicate. Its about being honest and not wasting your time on shit. If she's not working, then move to the next chick if it doesn't work out. How you handle the moving to the next chick part is your business.