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radionic + enochian magick: why not to try?

 
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dado1981
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interesting link about vortex!
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radionic + enochian magick: why not to try?

PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 1:35 am    Post subject: radionic + enochian magick: why not to try? Reply with quote

hi everyone! i'm very fascinated by radionics and enochian magick and i'd love to learn something more about them...so, let's get to the point: surfing the net here and there & looking for some powerful sigils or symbols to be implemented into the radionic software i owe (thpro & cybershaman), i found myself on this site: http://altreligion.about.com/library/bl_enochian.htm. i was thinking that, since enochian magick works with the highest energies (right?), why not to exploit its symbolism and sigils?

any1 is interested in experimenting? any1 has ever tried to implement that stuff inside a powerful rad5? Smile any1 knows if what's written here (http://www.llewellynencyclopedia.com/article/27) is true?

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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't want to alarm you, but progression through the magical realms should be just that...a progression.

While I cannot tell you where the trappings are, as I am on that journey myself, maybe it should be enough to let you know that there should be a certain readiness before you progress to the next higher level, and the next, and the next etc.

That being said, it's like trying to take on a Karate-do Black belt on your first go.

Just to share, I don't dare contact the higher entities just yet, but rather I'm starting with the lower forms, the earth spirits, the genii of the earth grid etc. If what Bardon says is true and you contact an entity that you're not ready to face, that entity could blast you apart, physically and etherically.

It has its dangers. While I'm angry at fear (I hate anything that attempts to make me afraid), PRUDENCE is a different virtue altogether.

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interesting link about vortex!
how to channel energy
scalar waves et similia
newbie question about ju99 & radionics - how to transfer
radionic + enochian magick: why not to try?

PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi jobet! thank you for your answer, i totally agree with you about prudence (and i practice kung fu, so i know what you mean).

for what concerns me, i'm less than a newbie if we speak about radionics (and enochian magick too). it's just that in my mind popped an idea... as i said, i was wondering if someone has ever tried "channeling" inside a rad device those kind of energies (which are supposed to be much more powerful than the biggest stack of orgone generator, aren't they?).

anyway, can i ask you what do you do actually to contact those lower forms?

thank you in advance.
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure.

As I mentioned in other posts, I am guided right now by two books. Cosimano's Psionic Grimoire (available through xtrememind.com as well) and Franz Bardon's Practice of Magical Evocation.

There are other books which can guide you like the Lemegeton. Again, beware of whom you contact.

Physically, I'm using my Daydreamer Psionic Helmet and my Python. If wanted (although I havent tried it yet) you can tell the entity to manifest himself on one of the crystal pyramids of the Python. The triangular shape is perfect for the purpose.

As a good first step, try making contact first with human beings. Like let a woman dream about you, or make a friend call you etc etc. Feedback for these types of operations can be instantaneous specially if that person is open to you and is nearby or within easy reach. Once you've mastered that, the principles of contact are the same for higher beings, save for some "adjustments".
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jobet wrote:
Again, beware of whom you contact.


Absolutely right.
Fifteen years after my first enochian experiment, I could say I agree with those who say that enochian entities don't really care about humans. And as someone wrote, they don't even like us.
What I mean is that they tend to show the usual indifference for humans spirits usually show, but to a magnified degree.
Like elephants, they don't really care whom they crush as they run.
The same could be said of angels, which usually are not the fluffy winged babes new agers imagine. Remember that when S. Francis of Assisi met an angel (or said he did), he nearly died. Higher vibration, I suppose.
They are probably fond of amplifying what you already have inside, and they usually start with the worst parts Twisted Evil
Jobet is right: start low and work your way with a sure foundation.
I am not aware of the existence of "official" enochian sigils, apart from those of the governors of the aires and those of the elemental kings (very few then if compared to the high number of enochian spirits), but there are several ways of obtaining them (rose cross lamen etc.).
If I were you I'd start with the goetic sigils you can find is Cosimano's priceless tomes: even if the goetic spirits are dubbed as demons by idiots, some of them can be quite polite and generous.

Just my 2 cents, anyway.

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interesting link about vortex!
how to channel energy
scalar waves et similia
newbie question about ju99 & radionics - how to transfer
radionic + enochian magick: why not to try?

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank you very much, both to you jobet and to you ovpower. i owe all the cosimano's books, the bardon's too, the clavicula salomonis and many others... so i've got enough stuff to start working with i think Smile what would you suggest me, also?

one more question: can i use cybershaman or thpro to contact entities? as in this moment i've not got enough money to afford a rad device...

tnx
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dado1981 wrote:
one more question: can i use cybershaman or thpro to contact entities? as in this moment i've not got enough money to afford a rad device...

tnx


I don't know, never used radionic software...

as for entities, try someone nice, like vassago of the goetia, or buer...

pay attention top haures/flauros, his character is bit like mine...

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interesting link about vortex!
how to channel energy
scalar waves et similia
newbie question about ju99 & radionics - how to transfer
radionic + enochian magick: why not to try?

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi ovpower. i must infer you were successfull in manifesting... but how do you get in contact with them, i mean, can you see them? or hear them? or it's something which is in your mind? and what about their "character", what did they do to you?

thank you for your attention, really.
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dado1981 wrote:
hi ovpower. i must infer you were successfull in manifesting... but how do you get in contact with them, i mean, can you see them? or hear them? or it's something which is in your mind? and what about their "character", what did they do to you?

thank you for your attention, really.


successful? well, did a few healings, hit a few assholes, got some money...
but I'm old and lazy, and I'm looking for something less tiring.

contact: if I work alone is some kind of mind contact, if I am working with a skrier he/she sees them.

Never used radionics for these workings, however, just plain old goetic evocation: see books by crowley, mathers, konstantinos, newcomb, runyon and duquette.

btw: nice signature, but capitalization and punctuation are wrong

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ovpower wrote:
successful? well, did a few healings, hit a few assholes, got some money...
but I'm old and lazy, and I'm looking for something less tiring.
[...]
ovpower


So in your experience, using those evocation rituals is more complex and tiring than getting similar results radionics?

Meaning, what you think are the pros and cons of choosing the evocations vs using radionic machines?
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