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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:34 pm    Post subject: Does Energy "Matter?" Reply with quote

Does Energy Matter?

I got to wondering about matter, and how it's been hypothesized (pretty solidly at that) to be energy, just really slowly vibrating energy. What I was wondering is why we (as humans) cannot shift into a higher energy state at will. It usually takes a great deal of effort, special diet, special thoughts, etc. It is accepted that if you "go energetic" spontaneously, then you are what is colloquially known as "dead" and usually detached [permanently] from your body. This is not what I mean however. What I mean is raising the vibration of your body into the energetic range such that you could effectively walk through walls or have other so-called solid material pass through you, without disturbing that which makes up you. That bus bearing down on you? No problem. Go energetic, and the bus passes right through you. After it passes, go "solid" and be on your merry way.

I am aware that there are problems with this, one being the tremendous amount of heat generated converting to either state. I have no idea how you would dump that much heat without turning into a living french fry, so that sort of argues against it being an ability humans ever had. Instead it rather pointed to humans not really being "optimized" for ascension. I mean certainly it is possible, but the hardware was really designed for something else. That something else is essentially creating and "living" in a high fidelity illusion. I'm going to pass on expounding on this, as there are a few more concepts I'd like to put out there.

One of them is the nature of Angels. I remember reading somewhere that angels have to be specially trained to interact with humans, and at the time I wondered what kind of "training" would be required. Forgetting for a moment interacting with largely irrational and frightened beings, A large part of training would be learning to move in the equivalent of molasses. As a high-energy/high vibration being, stepping down into "atmosphere" would be the equivalent of moving through thick oil. It would be difficult to talk, so my telepathy skills would be useful. I would not be able to stay very long because I would be overheating the whole time I was here. The beings here (that'd be us) would experience me as both very bright and very hot.

When I left, assuming they could look at me directly, they would see I had "wings" and would say I "flew:" up and "out of sight."

What really happened:
I don't have wings. What you saw is a high-energy particle (that'd be me} interact with a magnetic stream [Earth]. I wish I could find the reference, there was an article in a science journal where high energy particles were accelerated in a cyclotron's magnetic stream. at a certain speed these particles developed "wings" which looked exactly like angel's wings.

OK, back to what really happened.

I am not really rising "up," rather I am receding away from you, going higher in energy state, stepping out of the dense atmosphere you inhabit. To you it looks like I am going "up" and in a way, I am. The further I recede, the easier it is to "breathe" and the cooler I become, also the "brighter" I become since I no longer have to constrain my energetic state. It is harder than I thought. Perhaps with more training I can stay longer, but it really is quite unpleasant. It is very perplexing that most of you consider that living, and a true blessing that you don't remember what you were before being "born."

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Which brings me to "Ascension"

I have serious doubt about Ascension as a worthy goal. The very point of ascension is to be so spiritually perfect as to not need to go through the birth/death cycle of refinement. There is much that would need to be done, and if ascension was a goal that was within reach, then I would be both attuned to, and attracted to making it happen in this lifetime. But I'm not. It's a nice enough concept, and I did get the Dale Power Higher Vibration field item, yet I do not truly have the hots for ascension. I see other patterns in my life, things that need doing. I am not particularly enthused about doing these things, yet these things are far more important as far as my EarthWalk is concerned. You might say it is part and parcel of why I am here. Nothing grandiose or spectacular -really just everyday stuff but with great spiritual significance. Spiritual in this context means things that need doing in order to fulfill obligations from other lives. It's really quite amazing that a high-maintenance item like a human body is required to do the equivalent of light housekeeping. Even more of a wonder that other people manage to need you and you them and can meet in the same vicinity, be "born" at roughly the same time, and can recognize each other, in order to do that which needs doing, and for the most part without missteps.

I have more problems catching a bus than I have meeting up with my Soul Group members. Laughing

OK, I take it back. Ascension is a worthy goal. It is not really my goal, not yet. I am introspective enough to see patterns in my life. These patterns show up everywhere, and I understand what the patterns are telling my about my life -things that I am meant to do, to accomplish, and why I chose in the before life to take on these goals. These patterns are my guidelines on my personal path of ascension. I am thankful I am aware enough to perceive them.


This piece is not really a rant, just some things I was musing about.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting gt, no doubt there are many dangers in raising your vibration in majickal practices. can remember strange goings on in a nearby village where some kids decided to carry out a ritual in a nearby abbey, and whatever they got in contact with scared the hell out of them,they then fled to a nearby church thinking they would be safe,but not so, the poor souls died inside the church when it was ingulfed in flames.the story quickly disappeared from the news,but there was rumours that they spontaneously combusted,ive walked around this place many times and found the atmosphere not to pleasant,heres a pic of the abbey and church.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a few groups on the internet, claiming to (eventually) deliver the goods for walking through walls and that sort of stuff.

There's The Blue Emerald: http://www.theblueemerald.com/page/unteachings-1
[they are about stripping people from their beliefs]

Then there's Life Mastery Guilds: http://lifemasteryonline.com/key

The latter seems more focussed on Ascension. They have an article (http://www.thepathofpower.org/asharem-light-circle/the-guilds-of-asharem) that explains they work with a group of energy beings on the astral, there's supposed to be temples and energy constructs that would help purify a seeker's being. "seekers will find they are able to develop in days what would take years in the physical."

Personally I've had good results with LMG's products. So it makes me wonder if Ascension is really possible Surprised
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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very very interesting read GT. Especially the theory about the metarialization of spiritual beings. Is that your own opinion based on any kind of experience?
There is this guy Kurtykurt42 and his unique astral projection device on astral pulse.com. He has some very interesting theories and experiences and high knowledge of maths and electronics. I'd like to make a quote from him about the dimensions which he mentions as "densities":

My equations regarding the golden ratio shows how our dimension (3rd density) makes up over 50% of the galaxy. Which means that it occupies more space then all the other dimensions combined. Which of course would probably also mean that it is the most densely populated dimension throughout the galaxy.
The grays seem to think of the angels as gods. When the angels come into the 4th to speak with me the grays run like frightened children.

But until I personally see the genocide committed by the archangels I will continue to hold them in high esteem. And just because they have wings doesn't mean I will treat them any different from a reptilian that eats human babies.

For now though, I would much rather be at war with the grays than the archangels.
Density refers to the planes or dimensions of our existence. This is related to the charachtertics of the energy and also has to do with the center of galaxies. The closer your energy body / physical body is to the center of the galaxy the lighter it will be and the higher the density will also be. Right now our physical bodies occupy the 3rd density level and when we die our energy bodies are in the 4th density.

7th Density - Lightbody [Pleiadians are up here]

6th Density - Mental [single bug mind is here, animal oneness, human minds also are here but all separate not oneness]

5th Density - Angelic Beings [Blue light body] First experience with infinite Love of the universe. ArchAngels. Blue shield, divine space that we own as soul, and no one else can touch it.

4th Density - Ghosts, Astral entities, Animals are grouped also. UFOs, Upper side has many humans enveloped in emotion. Lower side is the Grays territory.

3rd Density - Physical body 7 chakra inside the body. All animals and humans are separate beings here. Animals do not bring heart emotion or grudges down here. Humans do.


I've been working on my equations from the other post, and here is what I have come up with.

The golden ratio (phi) = 1.618

The 3rd density is phi x phi = 2.62
The 4th density is 1/Phi x 1/phi = .382
The 5th density is 1/Phi^3 x 1/phi^3 = .0557
The 6th density is 1/Phi^5 x 1/phi^5 = .0081
The 7th density is 1/Phi^7 x 1/phi^7 = .0012

4th density (.382) x 7 = 2.6, which means the 4th density is about 7 times smaller than the 3rd.

5th density (.0557) x 47 = 2.62, which means the 5th density is about 47 times smaller than the 3rd.

6th density (.0081) x 324 = 2.62, which means the 6th density is about 324 times smaller than the 3rd.

7th density (.0012) x 2185 = 2.62, which means the 7th density is about 2,185 times smaller than the 3rd.

My theory is that the energetic vacuum density (gravity) of these dimensions is also dependent on these sizes. Meaning that the gravity of the 5th density is about 47 times that of normal 3rd density earth gravity. And the gravity at the galactic center (7th density) is about 2,185 times earths gravity.

47 / 7 = 6.7 (5th density is 6.7x 'denser' than 4th)

20 min = (20 * 60 = 1200 sec)

1200 / 6.7 = 179 sec

179 / 60 = 3 minutes

20 minutes (in the 4th) = 3 minutes (in the 5th)

I've been spending time in the 5th density (or they have been coming down to the 4th) with several individuals that have been explaining to me how all this gravity / energy is related to the galactic center. They explained that as you move into other galaxies the gravity may be much different than this galaxy. 100,000 times earth gravity and higher is possible on some of the planets in the higher dimensional planes. Although, time and space seem to share similar characteristics throughout the Universe.
In Astral Dynamics, Robert Bruce teaches you to draw the energy in from your hands and feet from the energy of the universe. When I meditate, I use my 'Astral Projection Device' to draw the energy in directly from the crystal sphere. I will power up the device and generate as much energy as it can create, I will then put my hands on the sphere and draw the energy into each of my chrakas for about 15 - 30 min. Then once they are completely filled with energy I will channel the energy threw my crown chakra and pour it into my sub-naval storage center (full body circuit). I do this for about 15-20 minutes or until all of my secondary storage centers are filled with energy. After this is done it takes me about 5 - 10 minutes to astral project into the higher density levels.
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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of this makes sense.The math is a problem. It very much seems he worked backwards looking for formulas that would fit what he already knew, rather than there being a unifying formula that already fit the known facts. Ignoring his "higher maths" the rest of this post is intriguing.
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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe "what is below is also above" and microcosmic and macrocosmic things really have exactly the same geometrical nature (I address the golden ratio spirals).
But what really interests me in his posts are this AP device. He first designed it like 7 orgone generators aimed at each chakra. He then changed it by time and I actually couldn't keep track of what he exactly did with that device but he ended up with something I would call a "full body circuit" just like Cosimano mentions.
He performes Tai Chi and states that people with low vibrational frequency would only harm themselves with it. That is the reason he gives for not selling or opensourcing the device.
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im not ganna lie, sometimes i go soo deep in theta, i start seeing black shadows fly before my eyes and i wake up right away, its to creepy, they are there though
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Sinan wrote:
Maybe "what is below is also above" and microcosmic and macrocosmic things really have exactly the same geometrical nature (I address the golden ratio spirals).
But what really interests me in his posts are this AP device. He first designed it like 7 orgone generators aimed at each chakra. He then changed it by time and I actually couldn't keep track of what he exactly did with that device but he ended up with something I would call a "full body circuit" just like Cosimano mentions.
He performes Tai Chi and states that people with low vibrational frequency would only harm themselves with it. That is the reason he gives for not selling or opensourcing the device.

Ah. the "Holier-Than-Thou" approach to Selective Distribution. Naturally he is the one who defines "low vibration" and if you ask about the device you are perforce low vibration (otherwise you wouldn't want or need the device). A clever way to both keep the device off the market, keep your reputation as genius innovator, and prevent anyone from peer-reviewing your equations and results.

You not being able to follow what he did is deliberate, and is the hallmark of a scammer. Think Cory Herter and his "Sacred G." His first lecture you can follow. After that it becomes incomprehensible. Why? Because that first lecture was the "hook" -the promise that yoy u would be able to understand how his program worked and be able to duplicated his work and results. This is not the case however, with the implication that there is something wrong with you for not being able to comprehend what follows, and what follows is mostly BS designed to make you feel stupid, which is why you need to buy the material -- because you can no longer understand it.

This guy got the same kind of thing going. Higher math would actually be calculus. What you posted is not calculus, just plain math. When I first read it I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Not anymore. The equations make no sense. The formulas are not based on anything, or at least not on anything meaningful. You have only his word to take on "densities" being the same as dimensions, and his "travels" being anything more than elaborate delusions. Since there is no way to either build or purchase his AP device, there is no way to double check his results. As he as no intention of releasing the device either privately or to the public, his assertions as to dimensional reality stays intact.

He fails the Does It Work? test.
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2011 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no reasons not to agree with you about the smell of a scam and also the equations. They seem to be made up.

On the other hand, his posts about this device (I've read most of them) gave me an impression that, in the beginning of his work he expected to help people astral project easily (this is when he would scam if he wanted to). As months pass, he learns more about crystals and programming them and combines that with electronics which is what I have very little knowledge about (that's why I couldn't keep track of latter designs). At latest posts I see clearly that he has lost/changed his notion of "good and evil" and "beneficial and harmful" which I also find very relative according to people, places, time, etc. Something should have happened to him as he lost his childish eagerness to help everyone easily and wore quite another aspect by time. In latter posts ,he didn't seem to care if someone thinks astral projection at will would be very "good" or "beneficial" for him/her. He had no expectation of anything about this device as he himself quit using it and not selling anything.

Well I'm not defending anything here and it is true that he fails the "does it work" test. Of course there is more than that about this guy but as we all know only repeatable tests will tell the truth. I'm sorry getting so far from the origin, energy and matter.
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