Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:53 pm Post subject: Weird Experience, Strange and Disturbing.
Last night as I was trying to fall asleep, I find it impossible to fall asleep while listening to subliminal tracks and stay up most the night after, I think I played KA 2012, Dark Attraction, and Aura Explosion.
After hours of tossing and turning , as I got closer and closer to falling asleep IT STARTED, my body began vibrating and I could hear a loud continuous tone .
I first thought It would pass or a would wake up like I normally do when I reach that twilight state just before sleep.
But this time it was different, I kept vibrating and I could still the loud continuous tone like sound, this time there was chanting in the background, I thought maybe it a dream and I am replaying one of the subliminal tracks in my head, but this wasn’t a dream, I was still awake like conscious instead of dream like wonderland conscious.
Then I began hearing words like “you mine”, “your soul is mine”, Then a voice that sounded like mine “I/you sold your soul” with the chanting in the background and the tones and vibrations it really felt like some sort of a satanic scene.
Then a voice that sounded like mine began repeating Shiva, Shiva, Shiva, then a saw the image or picture of the blue Lord Shiva siting in lotus position.
There was some thoughts or impressions in regards to opening my 3rd eye, but with the “soul” stuff and weirdness of it all, I remember saying “ I know I can achieve my awaking and ESP and all sorts of power but I just want to be normal now” then another voice (mine I think) said but it’s too late you soul is no longer yours.
I rebuked that whole thing and the vibrating and tone stopped I was back on earth so to speak.
Now I know that it was real and not just a dream, but I don’t know if my mind started playing tricks on me, or coz most spiritual stuff is associated with the occult which is satanic and Satan gives power/attraction for souls etc.
Someone please give me your input, why Shiva I don’t follow Hindu tradition or culture or is it the chants I got from the XM spells, I had 9 cast on me this month, could it be ESP level 1 activating??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
I really can't talk to you about the tracks you named, but right before I'm about to have a really bad nightmare, my body gives me a warning by making me shake and hearing this constant tone in my ear. Sometimes I'm too tired to fight it and I slip into the nightmare.
One time while listening to a hypnosis track (non subliminal), every affirmation was repeated in a negative way by this really deep, gruff, tone. It totally messed me up and I slept with the lights on that day.
For instance, if the affirmation was "I like myself", the voice would loudly say "you hate your self." Then this voice start going on a tangent by saying "You want to kill everyone", "You want to kill yourself". It seemed to be very demonic in nature. let's just say, I never listened to that track again.
I hope someone could shed light on your situation, since it seems much more intense than my experience.
Well, Shiva is the hindu god of destruction. So, if you put it at a christian way, that's the dark lord.
I checked it with the trutester and it have nothing to do with the spells or with ESP activating. It's something related to the subliminals.
Now, if you think about it, Kundalini is basically a hindu concept.
And dark attraction is have this name for some reason. It may be more because it's a covert op subliminal than having any relation to the devil.
So, if you put it all together, it may have some relation to your belief system working agains these 2 subliminals.
This is my interpretation of it: You probably associate the dark aspect of the dark attraction to an evil entity. But this perception is also influenced by KA. Though Shiva isn't actually evil, since he is part of a cycle, destructing all so everything can be created anew, it's easy to the unaware to associate him to evil.
the part of you "sold your soul", that mean you may have a conflict between these with your belief system, causing this feeling of guilt and shame that in turn makes you think you lost your soul.
So, to sum it up, I would say that you have strong resistances to awakening your ESP, since you're doing it through something that you associate with evil. Or that you're depending too much on external forces to make you grow, or even the purpose to activate your ESP is against this belieff system.
This theory is backed by the answers I got when testing about some stuff with the TT. I got that you are indeed being afflicted by devils. But I got that these devils are products of your imagination.
My advice would be that you thread carefully. Growth without control can be very harmful. And imaginary demons can create openings to real demons to take in. Try to identify this belief system and check for incompatibilities or grow inside it so its expansion is backed by your own growth, not a forced one.
While I was writing, BionicPsionic posted his message.
It is another hint indicating it may have been indeed the case of resistance to the messages of the subs. In BionicPsionic's case, it is clear that it is his subconscious mind resisting the hypnosis with the same intensity of the stimuli. _________________ "I find your lack of faith disturbing"
I was raised in a devote christen home, Pentecostals to be exact, and if you know anything about Pentecostals you would know they love power or witnessing the “power of God” in miracles and all sorts of "manifestations of the Holy Spirit”.
These manifestations or gifts of the Holy Spirit include signs and wonders such as the message of wisdom, the message of knowledge, faith, gifts of healing, miraculous powers, discerning of spirits, tongues and interpretation of tongues according to Corinthians.
As I kid even until recency I have witnessed demon exorcisms, not pretty ones too if I may add, people rolling around making strange noises and moving like animals, hearing young females speaking in corse male voices, even hearing “demons” themselves claiming ownership of the people and refusing to be evicted from their property. (btw its doctrine that is you sin again the demon has the right to come back with 7 more, that are more powerful than it).
On top of that the culture that produced a part of my psyche was steeped in superstition and “black magic” lore’s.
So in-between the effective fear mongering of Christian and the so called witches or Satanists (my old worldview) was a disturbed little child, most Christian children don’t witness much things growing up, going on in the households on a consistent bases, or have the Devil blamed for everything that goes wrong even a flat tire on the way to a church service.
Not to mention that the “righteous fear” was used even in my upbringing, like doing normal antics teenagers do and experiment with, will lead to demonic torment here on earth and eternal condemnation in the fires of HELL!!!! Oh yeah, ha, and demonic torment in Hell too (although the story goes hell was made for the demons to suffer).
Now I know consciously that religion is a form of power and control that dis-empowers billions of people for the benefit of a few, and when I say KNOW I mean know. Just like the cases in history where they would shackle people with the bible in one hand and tie chains around them with the other. But in my search to understand the god of Abraham I found that most of the Jewish myths, stories and religious history existed in other cultures.
But so effective is the indoctrination that some denominations stated 100s of years ago that if they are given a child until the age of six that child will never leave the church. Same time period modern day physiologists say a person’s identity (worldview, belief system, behaviour etc) is set in iron for the rest of they life.
So effective is the religious programming that even a middle aged, “intelligent”, well educated, Christian could say that God planted the dinosaur bones to test they Faith, or that the Devil, the master deceiver; gave the Theory of Evolution to Darwin to deceiver the world.
So most time a fall in that unconscious depressed state that am just here on earth to “get tested” and if I resist all the temptations of Money, Fame, Materiel success, sex, fun, pleasure in all its forms and sources I’ll get all those things in heaven, but if I fall for the “trap of Satan” which is all those things that would make anyone happy, its hell for ever.
Or I have to fight those thoughts every time I try and help myself out of it, everything that isn’t the bible is demonic.
What’s funny is having these magical spells, even demonic symptoms, and most these self-help tools like clinical hypnosis that where once in the realm of the occult (demonic), I meet pastors and Christian leaders who have 100s if not 1000s of flock, people who are supposed to be filled with the holy spirit. Any none of them sensed anything demonic, or spiritual “foul play” matter face one even said he felt the spirit of God in me.
This subconscious mind concept is frustrating, why even thought I have solid facts against this belief am still fighting to hold on to it? Or resisting upgrading it with the truth? It’s like having windows 95 and windows 8 on computer but windows 8 is on a Slave hard drive.
That's the problem with most religions.
They set the rules so tight with faith that people can't discern one from another and faith becomes a way to control them.
As you said, personality is mostly created by early years, but that don't means it can't be changed. What makes it early experiences so powerful to create the personality is because as child, we know nothing about the world and what we learn about it comes from parents and older people. We have a strong dependence for them when we are young and end up associating what older people believe to the right thing based on our feelings for them.
So, in a way, these beliefs, the truths our parents made us believe are associated with emotions, the love we have for them. That's why they are so powerful.
Not saying that you parents are the problem. Most of them actually do the best they can, but know so little about how harmful this can be. And most know little about life in general, so what they can do is reproduce what their parents did to them because they don't have any idea of what else to do.
But you know. You felt it, saw where it will take and don't want it anymore. So knowing this is making you feel ashamed of defying the love of your parents and those meaningful to you. This shame will try to sabotage everything you try to do to escape this powerful whirlwind of emotional control.
And this control is really strong on you, based on your life's story. But don't give up. Shame, guilt and fear are all ways to control you so you keep on the "right" track. As a child, this control was needed. But now, the only one who knows what is right for you is yourself.
But if you try to change the belief the way you're trying, forcing a new belief over the old one, you'll have strong reactions against it. It's like trying to change a flat tire while the car is still moving.
That may work, but you can get pretty much hurt in the proccess.
First you need to stop the car, or disarm this belief system. Overcome the fear, guilt or shame this system uses to control you. Then the way to change it will be way smoother.
I haven't tried both of the ways I will tell you, but heard very promising results with EFT (emotional freedom technique) and a subliminal that is being sold at the store of Vyse's review (although I tried other subs and they did work good).
Pick the one you like and learn to control shame, fear and guilt instead of letting it control you.
This and wishing you good luck is all I can do for you. There may be other ways I'm not aware of, but I believe the answer lies within you. _________________ "I find your lack of faith disturbing"
EFT works like magic, its amazing. Would be nice to try Phyc-k.
Can you recommend a dowse, and clearer, oh u dowse.
How would i go about working with u?
Yep. Heard very nice stuff about EFT.
Haven't tried it yet, but saw lots of info about it on google.
About a dowser, I have worked before with Munchkin and Sphinx.
Both are very good and talented.
Sphinx have performed a clearing on me some years ago. And noticed he is still around.
Munchkin's services on other hand is more recent. She did a really good job. Felt really good at my heart when she performed her dowse and cleared some secret wishes I had related to some areas of my life.
Can't go wrong with them.
About working with me, I'm not as qualified as them to perform any service. I own a trutester, so if you want, I can check some stuff for you, but since I don't have neither the knowledge or training necessary to be a dowser of their level, I can't guarantee much.
But I am a reiki student. So I can send you some reiki energy to help you keep you chi level high enough to make you more resistant to negative psychic influence. If I have your permission to do that, just send me a pm with your full name and I'll add it to my daily practice. _________________ "I find your lack of faith disturbing"
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