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I have thrown away all my radionics machines.
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does anybody here use cybershaman with a chigenerator?
does anybody use cybershaman with a chigenerator?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:02 pm    Post subject: does anybody here use cybershaman with a chigenerator? Reply with quote

And do you get actual results?
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I have thrown away all my radionics machines.
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does anybody here use cybershaman with a chigenerator?
does anybody use cybershaman with a chigenerator?

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i double posted? Could someone delete this thread for me.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:33 pm    Post subject: Software Based Radionics Reply with quote

I've never had much luck with software based radionics. I've used several software packages and had little or no success with them at all even when used in tandem with a chigen.

I find my results to be much greater when I physically connect myself through touch to the chigen and meditate on an intention for about 30 minutes. I've had REMARKABLE success with that method.
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I've tried CS7 with a PCHD

no results.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CS7 + Minimax...

On some trends yes (big time)....
... on others.. no results...

I think i'm getting the same success percentage that you can get out of a regular Rad Box with that combo....
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Software Based Radionics Reply with quote

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I find my results to be much greater when I physically connect myself through touch to the chigen

Interesting. Any idea why?

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and meditate on an intention for about 30 minutes. I've had REMARKABLE success with that method.

That's a long time - is that normal?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Software Based Radionics Reply with quote

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DrFaust wrote:
I find my results to be much greater when I physically connect myself through touch to the chigen

Interesting. Any idea why?

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and meditate on an intention for about 30 minutes. I've had REMARKABLE success with that method.

That's a long time - is that normal?


Well, not really a long time. Most people who meditate on a regular basis will do so for at least that long anyway.
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How does 30 minutes on intent compare to just visualizing with full emotions for a few minutes? Isn't that latter standard practice?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How does 30 minutes on intent compare to just visualizing with full emotions for a few minutes? Isn't that latter standard practice?


Some of us learned to meditate for peace of mind and enlightenment. This was before Radionics became well known and before LoA actually had a name. So we were used to meditating for long periods of time. Frankly, once you begin meditating regularly, the time flies by pretty quickly. It is not so much a choir as much as something you look forward to.

From an LoA standpoint, a few minutes with clear vision and full emotion directed at the intent would be more than sufficient. Of course, for many, full emotion and clarity of vision is not so easily achieved and takes a lot of practice. Attaching full emotion to a visualization has always been difficult for me. It simply did not come naturally. Still does not to be truly honest about it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not think it is required with full emotion when using powered radionics. The energy comes from the unit, I think.

Focus on the other hand - of course required.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I do not think it is required with full emotion when using powered radionics. The energy comes from the unit, I think.

Focus on the other hand - of course required.


You bring up an interesting poser there. I've spoken with Karl Welz, Jon Goldman, and a handful of others over the years and there was never a mention of "full emotion" being key in the radionics process. Then again, I can't recall it ever being discussed either way.

All the LoA gurus seem to agree that "strong emotion" combined with clear focus is the fuel that powers LoA successfully. Bob Proctor refers to it as not possessing a dream but choosing the dream that POSSESSES YOU. He says that when you do so - you will then be so obsessively focused and positively charged emotionally that you can't miss. Manifestation will be more or less automatic.

Your poser is intriguing. Does the chi gen actually act as an emotional substitute. Is the energy from the chigen standing in for the emotional charge we give our intentions when practicing LoA? I do not know for sure. I suspect Karl Welz would say yes. But it has been a very long time since I spoke with him about anything. I do know that LoA and Radionics compliment the HELL out of each other. When used in tandem the results are remarkably impressive.
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[Your poser is intriguing. Does the chi gen actually act as an emotional substitute. Is the energy from the chigen standing in for the emotional charge we give our intentions when practicing LoA? I do not know for sure. I suspect Karl Welz would say yes. .


One theory suggests that the "strong emotion" is the trigger that releases chi/orgone in most humans, and therefore is a necessary ingredient in most manifestation techniques- Magic(k) LoA, etc.

Since the Chi gen purports to provide it's own chi/orgone, that part isn't as necessary to this theory.

Of course strong emotion can also hinder manifestation when obsession is involved.
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DrFaust wrote:
[Your poser is intriguing. Does the chi gen actually act as an emotional substitute. Is the energy from the chigen standing in for the emotional charge we give our intentions when practicing LoA? I do not know for sure. I suspect Karl Welz would say yes. .


One theory suggests that the "strong emotion" is the trigger that releases chi/orgone in most humans, and therefore is a necessary ingredient in most manifestation techniques- Magic(k) LoA, etc.

Since the Chi gen purports to provide it's own chi/orgone, that part isn't as necessary to this theory.

Of course strong emotion can also hinder manifestation when obsession is involved.


I have heard radionic devices described as "ego toys." It gives the ego something to do, while the real work is done by the HS/sub. It neatly explains why there is a need/want for ever more powerful boxes, when a JU99 will work just as well. I'm not sure about the "emotional content" question, but I suspect it is another variant of focus or impressing upon yourself what you really want to accomplish.

More expensive boxes might be the difference between dial-up internet access and cable/dsl.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy to test I guess.

1) Do you usual 30min focusing with full emotion on your intent, WITHOUT the chigen.

2) Do a non-emotional focusing WITH the chigen.

Compare results with your usual results (30mins with full emotion and chigen). Not that comparing results is 100% proof but it can give an indication.
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More expensive boxes might be the difference between dial-up internet access and cable/dsl.


I haven't got alot of time to respond to this one today, but I'd say that this isn't necessarily the case.

I work mostly with home made, very simple devices. My JU99, and Archangel are fun toys, but not necessarily "more powerful" for me than boxes I've built out of card board, tin foil, and construction paper.

I'd say it more accurate to describe radionics gear interms of what your mind relates to better. Home made vs. Professionally made. Simple vs. Complicated.

Some folks just cannot accept that something they make themselves can be as powerful as 5lbs. of orgonite with glowing diodes, and himalayan anzurite dildos, and a scalar vibrating massage wand.

Hell, even I think Jon Logan's gear is the shizz! Very Happy

As a small example of what I mean, for some reason mind mind doesn't relate well to flat radionic boards, but the exact same design done in a 3d box works great for me. Shocked

Some how having a "box" and 3 dimensions makes it "more real" to my subconscious (or whatever), even though I know it's just tin foil, card board, and paper fasteners.

Gotta run now though. Cool
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