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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:08 pm    Post subject: Protonic Creations Reply with quote

I've had my eye on the Protonic Creations Casual Chamber for a while now. I get a good vibe from it. I also heard great things about the Shiva. Some people in here say they don't trust Protonic Creations and that there's better for the money and other people like me love their FSO Pendant. So I get mixed opinions on Protonic Creations. The people that have said to avoid them probably never tried any of their products. Could someone do an honest dowse of the Casual Chamber to confirm whether or not it is truly powerful and effective. If it is I'd like to get one. Thanks everyone
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
I'm not an expert dowser, but I'm a medium dowser I think. I asked for the Causal Chamber, because it likes me too, and I just received it isn't a good item to buy. I asked if it's like a Rad X in power and I have a NO in answer. The Rad X is more powerfull than the Causal Chamber. For this money you can buy a very powerful Radbox. But, I remember you, I'm not a great dowser until.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woodoochile wrote:
Hi,
I'm not an expert dowser, but I'm a medium dowser I think. I asked for the Causal Chamber, because it likes me too, and I just received it isn't a good item to buy. I asked if it's like a Rad X in power and I have a NO in answer. The Rad X is more powerfull than the Causal Chamber. For this money you can buy a very powerful Radbox. But, I remember you, I'm not a great dowser until.


I recently received a casual chamber and I don't regret my purchase at all. You can't really compare a lifeless object like a radbox to an object like a shiva or casual chamber. I personally own the newer Welz ATG 5 and it's a beast. But the casual chamber is also very strong in it's own way, as is the shiva. The shiva and casual chamber can be used for purposes completely different than a rad box and vice versa. You Also in a way develop a relationship with the casual chamber and shiva. I'd like to own a shiva some day as well Smile
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What I have always been interested in is having a more complete lifestyle and being able to have the experiences I want to have. And energy tools have helped me achieve these things. Over the years I bought I would say dozens of energy tools. Some from online and some from places like at the side of a road in New Mexico.

I learned the biggest problem with energy tools is thinking they are all alike. I got a causal chamber maybe three years ago and at first I was like Woodoochile thinking it was like rad boxes but like mwoehr says different tools are used for different purposes.

Rad boxes are more like an electronic thing like a television set. Anybody can use it. That’s why you see people selling used rad boxes on auction sites and online listings all the time.

When you dowse to learn about an energy tool first of all you really have to be a pretty experienced and gifted dowser to get accurate results because assumptions you already have in your subconscious can get in the way of accurate answers but second of all when you dowse an energy tool the results you get depend on the particular tool.

If it’s a rad box then people might have a better result from the dowsing because a rad box is a tool that can be swapped or sold to the next person like an electronic product so a rad box doesn’t really belong to anyone in particular just whoever happens to have it at the time.

But then you have a whole other classification of energy tools that work in other ways and can be just as powerful if not more. The way it was explained to me when I got it, the causal chamber energetically bonds with you. It’s a different energy dynamic.

Dowsing a rad box or a shiva or a causal chamber, it just dosen’t work the same. These are all different kinds of energy tools. Like with causal chambers each one has its own owner so you can’t get a clear reading from your dowsing if you don’t own one. There’s no energy connection there to dowse.

But the point I’m making is that based on everything I learned over the years I can say for sure that there is no way all energy tools can be put in the same category. It’s just not that simplistic.

I leaned a whole lot from an American Indian who taught me so much. She was the one who gave me my first energy tool. She wanted to share some of her knowledge with me. She said she knew I wanted to learn, she saw it in me. The coolest thing about that first energy tool is that it led me to other tools when I was ready for them and it helped me learn the truth about how they worked. That first energy tool unlocked the truth about other tools for me and about the world of energy.

If Woodoochile was to dowse my beautiful energy tool given to me years ago by my American Indian teacher, you wouldn’t get any accurate reading from it because it’s not yours. If you had your own then you could dowse the energy of your own.

It’s like you can’t dowse within the energy of my closed loop because my tool is keyed to me and not anyone else.

Thinking of all energy tools in the same way keeps you in a container. You got to go beyond that. And mwoehr has it right when he talks about a relationship with his causal chamber. I have a relationship with mine and that relationship is still there years later but alot more developed and stronger. Owning my causal chamber has given me deeper connections and wider access to energies. Its really all about not throwing everything into the same category and taking the time to understand the differences.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cathie wrote:
What I have always been interested in is having a more complete lifestyle and being able to have the experiences I want to have. And energy tools have helped me achieve these things. Over the years I bought I would say dozens of energy tools. Some from online and some from places like at the side of a road in New Mexico.

I learned the biggest problem with energy tools is thinking they are all alike. I got a causal chamber maybe three years ago and at first I was like Woodoochile thinking it was like rad boxes but like mwoehr says different tools are used for different purposes.

Rad boxes are more like an electronic thing like a television set. Anybody can use it. That’s why you see people selling used rad boxes on auction sites and online listings all the time.

When you dowse to learn about an energy tool first of all you really have to be a pretty experienced and gifted dowser to get accurate results because assumptions you already have in your subconscious can get in the way of accurate answers but second of all when you dowse an energy tool the results you get depend on the particular tool.

If it’s a rad box then people might have a better result from the dowsing because a rad box is a tool that can be swapped or sold to the next person like an electronic product so a rad box doesn’t really belong to anyone in particular just whoever happens to have it at the time.

But then you have a whole other classification of energy tools that work in other ways and can be just as powerful if not more. The way it was explained to me when I got it, the causal chamber energetically bonds with you. It’s a different energy dynamic.

Dowsing a rad box or a shiva or a causal chamber, it just dosen’t work the same. These are all different kinds of energy tools. Like with causal chambers each one has its own owner so you can’t get a clear reading from your dowsing if you don’t own one. There’s no energy connection there to dowse.

But the point I’m making is that based on everything I learned over the years I can say for sure that there is no way all energy tools can be put in the same category. It’s just not that simplistic.

I leaned a whole lot from an American Indian who taught me so much. She was the one who gave me my first energy tool. She wanted to share some of her knowledge with me. She said she knew I wanted to learn, she saw it in me. The coolest thing about that first energy tool is that it led me to other tools when I was ready for them and it helped me learn the truth about how they worked. That first energy tool unlocked the truth about other tools for me and about the world of energy.

If Woodoochile was to dowse my beautiful energy tool given to me years ago by my American Indian teacher, you wouldn’t get any accurate reading from it because it’s not yours. If you had your own then you could dowse the energy of your own.

It’s like you can’t dowse within the energy of my closed loop because my tool is keyed to me and not anyone else.

Thinking of all energy tools in the same way keeps you in a container. You got to go beyond that. And mwoehr has it right when he talks about a relationship with his causal chamber. I have a relationship with mine and that relationship is still there years later but alot more developed and stronger. Owning my causal chamber has given me deeper connections and wider access to energies. Its really all about not throwing everything into the same category and taking the time to understand the differences.


Very well put!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the link for the casual chamber?


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Edit - I found the link:

http://www.hootenization.com/EVG_page_one_intro.html

Who makes these devices? Does anybody have a name, I don't see the vendor identify him or herself on this website?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PleiadianHealer wrote:
What's the link for the casual chamber?


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Edit - I found the link:

http://www.hootenization.com/EVG_page_one_intro.html

Who makes these devices? Does anybody have a name, I don't see the vendor identify him or herself on this website?


Protoniccreations.com
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