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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 6:14 pm    Post subject: 528 Water Imprinter Reply with quote

Check this out fellas. Im definitely obtaining one... my sotainstruments version just died this year

http://www.quantumbalancing.com/528imprinter.htm

Lovely, I must say
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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 8:42 pm    Post subject: Re: 528 Water Imprinter Reply with quote

elroy wrote:
Check this out fellas. Im definitely obtaining one... my sotainstruments version just died this year

http://www.quantumbalancing.com/528imprinter.htm

Lovely, I must say

OK, but does it work, pretty pictures aside. I got big doubts that "frequency imprinters" either work, or can work for the following reasons:
    1. As soon as you remove the source vibrator, the frequency of the liquid reverts to its normal resting frequency.

    2. There is no evidence that the imprinted frequency makes it into the body and/or does anything beneficial once inside. Just conjecture at this point but likely the water or other imprinted liquid would have to overcome the body's own, native frequencies, and quite possibly the body would treat this water or liquid as unrecognized or foreign and try to neutralize or outright eject it.
I'd be interested in your review, elroy, of your experiences with the device, should you decide to purchase.
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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can add Adya Clarity to your water experiments and see if the minerals that begin to appear accumulate in a pattern. I have done experiments with vortexed water and compared to pre-vortexed and there is a sunburst pattern that forms on the bottom of the glass with the modified water. I haven't actually tried the idea of testing the treated water after it has sat for a period to see if it loses its charge or structure. This is just one way to get visual results for water experiments. All I know of beyond that is queries by dowsing.

But that thing looks like a frisbee converted to a zapper. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You can add Adya Clarity to your water experiments and see if the minerals that begin to appear accumulate in a pattern. I have done experiments with vortexed water and compared to pre-vortexed and there is a sunburst pattern that forms on the bottom of the glass with the modified water. I haven't actually tried the idea of testing the treated water after it has sat for a period to see if it loses its charge or structure. This is just one way to get visual results for water experiments. All I know of beyond that is queries by dowsing.
All of that is outside the body and does not address what if anything happens inside. I do not believe that drinking "imprinted water" does anything (as outlined in my previous post) and that the only way to to get the body to vibrate at a specific frequency is to physically vibrate the body; a sound couch with headphones, that sort of thing. There is no evidence however that doing so is of any benefit.

The Solfeggio frequency information was interesting, but ultimately useless, as it did not lead to a way to effectively utilize the information. While quite a few companies sprung up which purported to utilize these frequencies in a meaningful way, none of them have borne fruit as far as the end-user/consumer is concerned. My primary criteria remains Does It Work? If it does not produce meaningful results then I could care less about pretty patterns in the water or its Theory of Operation.
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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have only added my personal experiences for his own experimental purposes. Or anyone else that may enjoy experimentation. You can say it does not work in your experience which is fine. It cannot apply 100% of the time to 100% of the people. Works the same with nutrition and poison. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dunno about frequency stuff although I'm inclined to agree with GT here, but the colloidal silver water does work. 180 bucks for one though? That's more than a little steep considering it's built with about 5 dollars worth of components and a few minutes worth of construction...


And yes I know, my computer is essentially built in a factory in minutes from about 50 dollars worth of components (in bulk) and I still paid 1100 bucks for it. But unlike this water device, a computer has DOZENS of middle men from the design floor to my desk that all need their cut.
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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like a zoot zapper device. I haven't tried building a colloidal unit yet. After building a bunch of zappers to mess with SPs I went to experiments with wands. I need to read up on the colloidal circuits and see how different they are. I would love to find someone that can print circuit boards for me.
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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wasn't disputing the colloidal silver generator aspect of the device. I've built and used colloidal silver generators, so I know there's no way one costs anywhere near $180. These guys are out to do some dancing in your wallet. Since little is known about "water imprinting" from a practical standpoint (and I'm sure the device comes with a disclaimer that the device is for "experimental purposes only" meaning they haven't been able to find anything conclusive themselves), they figure they can charge a hefty fee on the mystique of exotic [read non-performing] technology. Less expensive colloidal silver generators exist, or you can simply buy colloidal silver already made and of guaranteed quality.
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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It reminds me a bit of Cialdini's book (IIRC, it's been years) where it's noted that you should always charge WAY more for your stuff than it's worth because people will pay it thinking it MUST be great because it cost so much and use that to justify its (in)efficacy. They defend it because it cost so much and don't want to be made a fool of for having dropped so much money on something useless.

Not saying that about you elroy, just generally.
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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rayzorblades wrote:
It reminds me a bit of Cialdini's book (IIRC, it's been years) where it's noted that you should always charge WAY more for your stuff than it's worth because people will pay it thinking it MUST be great because it cost so much and use that to justify its (in)efficacy. They defend it because it cost so much and don't want to be made a fool of for having dropped so much money on something useless.

Not saying that about you elroy, just generally.
Efficacy? Efficacy at what?
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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps he meant efficiency at meeting it's advertised goals

Quantumbalancing repeats through out it's website that none of it's machines are meant to treat diagnose or heal any disease. Such signs contradict the very nature of the gadgets they sell.

I like their stuff, but this over cautiousness in advertising kills it's credibility
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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wrote:
They defend it because it cost so much and don't want to be made a fool of for having dropped so much money on something useless.
Thought that was pretty clear. If you spend a bunch of cash on something worthless, you'll defend your purchase by making that something not worthless somehow.

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I like their stuff, but this over cautiousness in advertising kills it's credibility
Or they just don't want to be raped of their entire lives by the government for making claims that (if true) rob huge profiteering monopolies (who lobby and fund campaigns) of their strangle hold on mankind.
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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Quantumbalancing repeats through out it's website that none of it's machines are meant to treat diagnose or heal any disease. Such signs contradict the very nature of the gadgets they sell."

RB is correct, and "raped" comes pretty close.

In the USA, the law states that ONLY FDA approved drugs or (surgical procedures performed by a licensed medical professional) can cure a disease. The Dietary Supplemment Health and Education Act of 1994 prohibits any vendor from making any claims that their product will cure, heal or prevent any disease. If any non-FDA approved herb or product is claimed to heal, then you, the vendor of that item, have just classified that product as a drug and you are practicing medicine without a license.

A smart vendor will never mention any disease names in his product descriptions. Even if you have an herb that has been used for 2,000 years to ease the suffering of, lets say, arthritis, and even if Harvard has a study on record explicitly stating that an herb did indeed ease the symptoms of arthritis, you cannot even mention that Harvard study in your sales literature, it is against the law. BUT, if you simply say that you have a product that "supports healthy joint function by supporting a natural and healthy joint response" then its ok.

You can say that there has been a study done on that herb, but you cannot mention Harvard, OR provide a link to that study. You just better have the actual study printed off somewhere in your file cabinet in case you get a knock on the door asking you to prove it.

Another loophole is that a vendor can set up a seperate website with information only. No products, period. No links to any products, period. Just information. Then you can say whatever you want.

Anyways, there is a 156 page book that could be helpful, I have never read it, but its going for the bargain price of $197.00! Its called "What can you say, when you can't say anything?" and you would think from the sales language on the books landing page that FDA agents are going to kick your door down if you don't buy this book, but on the other hand, a couple of hundred smackers could save you thousands in the long run.

Maybe its on the web for free somewhere....
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