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| Wiki wrote: | | Morphogenetic fields are said to contain the information necessary to shape the exact form of a living thing and may also shape its behaviour and coordination with other beings. |
A supporting point I found here:
| Quote: | | Danny Brower and Richard McIntosh of the University of Colorado at Boulder have discovered that growing cells apparently generate electrical fields that control the shapes of living organisms. They have been experimenting with a disc-shaped alga with a lobed edge. Normally the algo reproduces by splitting in half, with each half regenerating the lost half. Nicely symmetric discs are manufactured. But if an external electrical field (about 14 volts/cm) is applied across the nutrient medium, the regeneration geometry is distorted. The experimenters surmise that the membrane chemistry is affected by the external field which augments or reduces cell-created electric fields. |
Now in the last 31 years, we've learned a lot about cell biology. Voltage gating systems in cell membranes etc. which basically proves Bower and McIntosh correct.
My thoughts along these lines as far as metaphysics are concerned have to do with so called "auric healing". Changing the EMF of a damaged area to match that of a healthy area, will cause the damaged area to heal, as demonstrated by Becker et al. in their book "The Body Electric". Which further supports the above notions.
Galvanic skin responses (GSR) are a very simple aspect of physiology to learn to manipulate with biofeedback. It's basically a way of measuring the electrical conductivity of the skin, which can be consciously modulated with training. Using technology to modulate GSR is basically how Becker et al. caused mice to regenerate severed limbs.
A feedback mechanism to identify magnetic frequencies and skin voltages as "healing" ones could allow "psychic" healers to be trained en masse with relative ease.
To expand on this, the GSR is a topical effect, there's nothing to say that the equivalent couldn't also be accomplished on a "deep-tissue" sense. And that could likely be how other aspects of "psychic" healing work.
Another thing that really gets me excited is the notion that body morphology and even aspects of phenotyping could be passively controlled with rapid results, i.e. change the galvanic response of your flimsy girlie muslces to that of a body-builder and watch yourself hulk out in a relatively short time with no need for exercise.
Further applications could be applied to bloodless plastic surgery. A mask generating the galvanic responses to tweak your face to "regrow" into the one you want over the course of natural dermal and osteo regeneration.
And on and on, hell this could be used to for baldess/alopecia. Don't get me wrong, it'd take a lot of work testing variables and likely need to be adjusted on a person by person basis, but it's still amazing.
I surmise as per my post regarding GT's genital enlargement, that this might be how so called healing at a distance/healing trinkets etc etc. actually work. You've convinced your SubC to change your GSR (an easy to manipulate/low energy variable) in a certain area in a certain way and the body grows to reflect that change.
This reflects notions of "compatability" as well, in that if the way you're trying to get your body to change (radionics, Dale Power trinkets, reiki etc.) isn't using the right communicative symbolic interface that your SubC responds to, then naturally, such devices either won't work, or will work less effectively.
As to this working "at a distance" with regards to things like healers, atunements et al. I turn to Persinger's magnetic telepathy work in Toronto, Canada. He demonstrated a neurological "lock stepping" that occured between subjects both within the same magnetic field. Well Earth is a surrouned by a giant magnetic field, therefore if YOU are "healing" someone at a distance, or attuning them, whatever, it's very possible that you are in actuality causing alterations in YOUR OWN phsyiology while being "lock stepped" with theirs. So as you change yourself, because you're synched with them, theirs changes to reflect yours.
This could be possible a number of ways; People who are "healers" have trained themselves to be more powerful on an energetic level (I mean this literally, as in more EM power generated by their physiology) and as such are able to influence the whole of all others in the Earth's magnetic field easier; People who would seek such healing are of the personality types which are more sensitive to these notions, the "telemagnetic" transmissions of others; or both.
Someone asked me "Well then if we're all able to demonstrate telepathy in Earth's magnetic field, then why aren't we a giant collective like the Borg from Star Trek, or all nuts?" and to that I replied, A) how do you know we aren't and that this isn't just how it's represented on this level? or B) The notion of habituation, constant background noise that gets blocked out by the reticular formation in your brain, a protection mechanism against information overload.
Notion B sounds more likely, and as such I like it better. It could also explain how states of deep meditation can foster a heightened awareness and increased "psychic" abilities. Because you're slowly suspending the activity of the reticular formation and gradually allowing data in (consciously or unconsciously) at a rate you can handle without going nuts.
Keep in mind that there are likely to be safeguards in place both subconsciouslly and biologically to keep the flood gates from opening all the way too quickly, or at all in some cases.
Anyway, that's all for now. There's a lot of rehashed stuff of mine in there and some new ideas as well. Enjoy!
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This is a delicious post  Thank you Sir!
And yes, I can tell from personal experience that all this has been very true with me: It's what allowed me to go from 5'8" to 5'10.5" through deeper yin/subconscious programming. |
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I thought I had more material posted on this subject, especially as it pertained to Dale Powers' work, but can't seem to find it. I did find some material in this thread [ http://xtrememind.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2855&highlight= ]which mostly confirms your theoretical underpinnings. It would be interesting to see how far this can be taken and whom will do the experimentation.
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Makes sense to me. Though I doubt you'd be able to find anyone willing to fund training for the "psychic healers en masse", given the state of affairs.
Nevertheless, your conjecture on body morphology is interesting. I'd never considered it that way. That may very well be how 'energy work' as we know it operates.
Most of all though, I had not considered or heard of this body morphology subject. I wonder if I could create a radionic-esque device that could modify such fields accordingly and specifically... definitely som food for thought!
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In point of fact experimentation was done, (after a fashion) in Lynne McTaggert's The Intention Experimemt. A critique of methodology and assumptions [bias] going into the experiment can be found HERE. Even though the book The Field is on my Recommended Read list I have had reservations similar to those list in these critiqes. The problem in a nutshell is that what Ms McTaggert postulates is more or less the holy grail of psionics. The problem is: psi doesn't operate the way she postulates. It does work, but how? Hmmm. Having been the recipient of remote healing I know it works. Perhaps there is something to Rayzorbades' theory after all.
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| Arman wrote: | This is a delicious post Thank you Sir!
And yes, I can tell from personal experience that all this has been very true with me: It's what allowed me to go from 5'8" to 5'10.5" through deeper yin/subconscious programming. |
No, thank you. 
I'd have loved to have had you hooked to a galvanometer or something while you were working on this.
Part of what inspired me to post this was when you started referring to yin/yang as eletricity/magnetism. It reminded me a lot of John Chang's videos on Youtube about meditating everyday to combine the yin and yang in his Dan'tien, and he, based on the videos (taken with however much salt as you like), actually generates electricity. He causes involuntary muscle trembling in his patients and lit up LEDs, both of which are within the level of the amount of biological energy produceable by the human body and conductable through the nervous system without harm.
To add to that, as I mentioned healing and Chang is a healer; pulsers (both Beck and Clark). It seems to me (and I've mentioned this to a few folks on this forum) that based on the amount of juice Chang can apparently generate, combined with stong biofeedback control of that electricity, could allow for a healer to be their own anti-infection machine in an identical vein to the pulser technology, and also things like Lee Crock's Aura Cleanser tech (Google it if you're unfamiliar; it's interesting).
| Mr. GreenTea wrote: | | I thought I had more material posted on this subject, especially as it pertained to Dale Powers' work, but can't seem to find it. I did find some material in this thread [ http://xtrememind.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2855&highlight= ]which mostly confirms your theoretical underpinnings. It would be interesting to see how far this can be taken and whom will do the experimentation. |
I enjoy that thread. I feel like we really are on the cusp (NEAR 2012 OMG!!   ) of a psychic/magickal/whatever renaissance now that actual hard science can back up much of what is accomplished, but also believed to be accomplished/possible. My mind is constantly working now to build hard science foundations around magick to not only make it proveable in a labratory setting, but also to make the feats accomplished more quantifiable, and through that, easier to control and amplify.
I don't forsee myself winning the Randi million anytime soon since he'd be likely to say "Oh that's not psychometry; your brain is just magnetically decoding nano-etchings in the material of the object (made to it by exposure to its environment), and then your subconscious is converting that information into an archtype easily recognized by your conscious mind. Everyone knows that you idiot!"
Still, being able to build an army of real life Jedi to enact world domination would be pretty cool (GET OUT OF MY HEAD UNCLE CHUCKIE!).
In case it's not obvious, I'm excited about this.
| Alastan wrote: | Makes sense to me. Though I doubt you'd be able to find anyone willing to fund training for the "psychic healers en masse", given the state of affairs.
Nevertheless, your conjecture on body morphology is interesting. I'd never considered it that way. That may very well be how 'energy work' as we know it operates.
Most of all though, I had not considered or heard of this body morphology subject. I wonder if I could create a radionic-esque device that could modify such fields accordingly and specifically... definitely som food for thought!
Thanks RB. Great read. |
Not necessarily looking for anyone to fund anything, just saying it's becoming a possibility now that I'm applying real science and scientific principles to things long thought by the public to be chicanery. As more work is done by myself and others to combine hard science with metaphysics, the results will begin to speak for themselves and that will lead to funding, and then who knows where we'll end up after?
| Mr. GreenTea wrote: | | In point of fact experimentation was done, (after a fashion) in Lynne McTaggert's The Intention Experimemt. A critique of methodology and assumptions [bias] going into the experiment can be found HERE. Even though the book The Field is on my Recommended Read list I have had reservations similar to those list in these critiqes. The problem in a nutshell is that what Ms McTaggert postulates is more or less the holy grail of psionics. The problem is: psi doesn't operate the way she postulates. It does work, but how? Hmmm. Having been the recipient of remote healing I know it works. Perhaps there is something to Rayzorbades' theory after all. |
I only skimmed the first half of that critique as I'm pressed for time and this is getting pretty long winded. I think the problem with "psionics" lies with the fact that the definition seems to change during scientific debates of its existance as fast/often as the one for "qi" does.
In my POV, "psi" isn't an energy all its own that can do magical things, it's the principle of USING established mechanisms to achieve things that SEEM magical to the layperson (Clark's axiom about science and magic comes to mind). In otherwords, it's a verb (or adverb) and not a noun.
I don't know if I'm the first person to hold this stance, but I think I'm definitely a pioneer. In that critique it says:
| Quote: | | Nevertheless, McTaggart digs up an impressive handful of studies whose results are certainly curious, as long as we interpret the results the way she wants us to. But then, like most other authors in the genre, she blatantly disregards the vast, overwhelming body of evidence that proves that people do not have psychic powers, that we cannot move objects with our minds, and that we cannot change the world through our intention alone. |
The issues here being:
"Psychic powers defined as what?" since I don't quantify them "powers". In my theoretical framework they're just applications of aspects of (the well proven principle of) biofeedback. And yes, EVERYONE can AND DOES learn to use biofeedback in many ways throughout their lives.
"People move objects with their minds constantly", please author-of-that-critique, tell me what controlled your fingers to type up this semi-scathing editorial. The process of bodily movement is a form of biofeedback itself.
"Intention alone might not be able to change the world, but attempting to use it changes YOU" this is also well established. The very process of thinking changes our brains, and through that, our minds, and through that our bodies. If you focus on an intention long enough it becomes a part of your brain's schematic framework and begins causing you to do things and make decisions based on that framework. That last sentence is more or less condensed from 3 chapters of my very first university psych text. Intention CAN and DOES change the world in EVERYONE'S lives EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.
What I got from my skimming of that critique was a pile of fallacious arguments, trumped up with techspeak, shifting definitions, and confirmation bias. He even says:
| Quote: | | Naturally, I become suspicious of a book that demeans and cheapens science by putting religion on a pedestal, and claiming that "ancient myth" knew something all along that science is just now discovering. |
Implying that his critique of her book is as biased as he thinks her book is, since it didn't cheapen science at all; if anything the line he's talking about shows how GREAT science is, trying to solve those age old questions/experiences/ideas with the latest in advancements. Some people tie things too intrinsically to their egos *shrug*.
And after all that, I'll leave with two things:
This article/video about meditation helping to block pain reception (occasionally touted as a psionic/magickal act) by manipulating a part of the brain they don't mention the name of in the article (I don't have sound at present so I dunno if it says it in the video).
Hint: it's our friend the reticular formation I mentioned a-way up there ^.
This underlines the biofeedback connection since A)meditation is a form biofeedback, and one of the chief ways to accessing the state of mind needed for beginner's biofeedback training; and B) direct manipulation of the RF is basically one of the keystones of my whole theoretical framework.
And part 2: The notion that things like psionic helmets with their rings of magnets which all have magnetic fields (external permanent fields that are usually much stronger than yours), can aid and amplify psionic abilities while not acting on the brain directly (as per that Mythbuster's episode, also taken with salt). While this hypothesis needs some expansion/testing, I propose that it acts as an artificial booster that can give baseline humans the same (or greater) amplitude of "telemagnetic" transmission through Earth's magnetic field that distance healers/psychics/etc have.
I surmise that this is because while it may not directly act on your brain (which depends on what they were actually looking for and how closely, I'm guessing "not very" since the whole goal of the show is in the title), it still acts on your body's EMF, which as I pointed out above, is pretty damned linked to your biology.
Anyway, sorry if that was a little hard to follow at times; I'm very tired, very wired, and picking my girlfriend up at the airport in 11 hours at the time of this writing. If clarification is needed please ask. Anyway, enjoy!
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Added to this this afternoon; this Earth-wide "Telemagnetic Transmission" concept fully supports Jung's ideas of the collective unconscious and lends more credence to them/expands on them. It also adds to the idea that the more people that use a sigil etc. make it more powerful. More people are in fact literally focusing on something and transmitting their aspects of focus/wish/belief etc. into the collective unconscious through Earth's magnetic field. Sharing your work amplifies its efficacy for everyone, and SELLING it, unless it's custom stuff, is just a brilliant business model.
Another thing I came up with just before napping, was in accordance to my theories and Dale Power's (and similar) works. Consensus is that if you use too many, it drains the hell out of you. Some people say this is straight across the board with regard to radionics/magick/etc though I've never experienced it myself that I can recall enough to make a correlative case. A reason that that could actually occur though is that concentration takes energy. When you concentrate on something intently for a long time, it drains the hell out of your bodily reserves of B vitamins (B12 and 6 specifically, and some pantothenic acid), vitamin C, and some D (which also can cause calcium issues) and some potassium drainage. This is in addition to whatever the field is trying to do directly to your physiology (heal faster, build strength etc).
Essentially, according to my hypothesis, these fields function in part by adding sub-routines to the program of your mind, creating a constant increase in "background levels" of concentration, thus causing the fatigue from overuse.
To combat field-usage-fatigue, I'd suggest taking a time release B-complex tab at least once a day, with perhaps a sublingual B12 tab under the tongue, drinking OJ, eating a little chocolate, getting some sun and eating a banana or some spinach. Doing this a few times per day (depending on how many fields you actually use), everyday, would likely let you wear as many fields as you want within reason, although I'm pretty sure the number could be increased to much more than the suggested 5.
A field installing these behaviours naturally in your mind might actually be in part how Dale's "self powering" stuff works (granted I'm completely unfamiliar with it so I might be totally off target). And if it wasn't already in there, maybe it could be added to that field to enhance its efficacy.
Anyway, if anyone with enough fields/time to test that hypothesis wants to, please post here about it. Enjoy!
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Your hypothesis is extremely intriguing and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
You should also send Private Mail on this and other ideas you have.
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You know, I've often thought of making a newsletter.
I've actually been meaning to PM you for a few days.
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I just want to tack this on as a reminder to add and flesh out an expansion of my takes on homeopathy and transmitted treatments. I feel like I'm on the cusp of another huge thing.
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I've recently been taking a homeopathic remedy for an ailment, my first real (as in doctor prescribed) homeopathic remedy, and I got to wondering about an alternate method for its operation.
Essentially such a remedy could be thought of as a "fractal" pattern within the body, one which is "keyed" to a specific condition or "lock." When this lock is found, the fractal key expands or grows to fill the entirety of the lock, disabling it. As there is more than one lock, more than one application of the remedy is (usually) required. As this is a somewhat intensive process, it can be physically tiring (at least I have found it to be so).
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