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tom502 · Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:35 pm Post subject: Eckankar

Hi,

Just curious if anyone here has had any involvement, or done anything with Eckankar?

Thanks

TomSKinney · Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:21 pm Post subject:

The ones I met were nice enough. The chanting "Hu" was a bit weird. You have to pay every year to be a member and buy their materials like books. They borrow from actual traditions to give the sense that they have a long history, but it gives a sort of salad bar effect. As cults go they are fairly decent folks, but you have to have money or don't bother. You can get a student discount if you are in school still.
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tom502 · Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:15 pm Post subject:

Yes, they do have an initiatory system with a membership fee. Of course their books are cheap(dirt cheap used). But if you live near a center, they do have free weekly meetings. So, you don't have to pay anything if you don't want. Though you won't be a formal initiate and advance officially. The essence of their stuff seems to have been culled from Radha Soami teachings, and even some Scientology, though it seems to have morphed a bit into new agey feel goodism, I think, especially when Klemp took over. Personally, I liked the Darwin Gross lineage, which seems to have been taken on by a group called Dhunami, with a new Mahanta, since Gross passed on, and seems to have left no official successor, and the group he was heading(ATOM) still haven't produced an heir, and it's been a few years now. I find the teachings appealing, though I find the Klemp version too fluffy. Atom is practically dead, Dhunami seems good, though I can't figure out who the Master is, the man, or his wife. I do tend to think the history of Eckankar with it's past masters names, and locals to be made up, trying to give it some mysticism, I think overall it has some solid spiritual teachings and techniques.

Mr. GreenTea · Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:01 pm Post subject:

PleiadianHealer · Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:52 am Post subject:

I think you can accomplish the same thing as Eck, if you do it yourself. I know that working with a master works a bit better... but I still think you can do it on your own.

The ECK people practice OBE's via the third-eye. They leave the body through the third-eye mostly, but sometimes use the crown chakra too. All in all, it's an OBE teaching. They do not advocate astral travel at all, since in that type of practice you leave through the lower chakras, usually the third chakra.

Anyway, I've read of people that could also meet "masters" and so forth by focusing on the third-eye for long periods of time, while in meditation. I would try it...it's not impossible.

PH
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Mr. GreenTea · Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:10 am Post subject:

PleiadianHealer · Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:08 am Post subject:

Mr. GreenTea · Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:51 am Post subject:

Then maybe you should state that difference. AND sorry to say, whether you are stating their point of view or not, the brow chakra is still one of the upper chakras. It could be the Eckankars are just wrong, cult or not. Personally I think that "Soul Travel" and OBE AP are so similar as to be the same thing, and you are quibbling over semantics. What "vehicle" is used in OBE travel? Etheric Body? What non-APers commonly think of as the soul?

The other interesting thing is that with so many inquiries about AP in general, and with so much experience under your belt [if you're to be believed] you have not created a thread to coach others on how to achieve a successful AP/OBE.

Care to comment?
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tom502 · Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:33 pm Post subject:

I was a little bit involved with Eckankar years back. I read a few books and attended their weekly meetings. The HU chant was nice and relaxing. And everyone was nice. It was a no pressure experience. I like the Dhunami group better these days. But I haven't explored it in depth. Though I am more familiar with Radha Soami. The main thing I took away from it, was more of a soul projection, kinda like remote viewing, where you "go" places, and meet with Masters on the inner planes.

PleiadianHealer · Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:05 pm Post subject:

tom502 · Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:19 pm Post subject:

Very good post explaining soul travel. I'm wondering if this is also related to what I would call dream travel, or wakened dream travel. I mean, if you in a rested meditative state, just .... best word I can think of, imagined, you are somewhere, and you can see it and even inter-act with others during this, is this the same, is it "real", is this soul travel? Is one generally asleep when it takes place, or awake?

Of course a certain someone would say, "You can't scientifically prove it, so it's fluffy bunny crap." Sorry for the confusion.

PleiadianHealer · Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:53 am Post subject:

PleiadianHealer · Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:37 pm Post subject:

I just want to add one more thing to this thread, even though I should start a new thread, I didn't want to do that since I have not used this pendant, but still wanted to show everyone.... just in case we get any interested parties who would like to see an orgone pendant that is supposed to enhance astral projection...I like the way it looks and it might help with soul travel too:

http://www.natures-blessings.org/AstralTravelPendant.htm

PH
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