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kidkarma · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:02 pm Post subject: Guru Siyags Sidda Yoga

http://www.the-comforter.org/

He is an enlightened sidda guru who gives shaktipat deeksha by divine mantra.
The mantra is giving on thursdays and cannot be shared with others unless giving by him. I have recieved his mantra Deeksha.

One must continue to chant the mantra and meditate every day to fully awaken the kundalini.

You can request his mantra deeksha on the site and will be emailed it on a thursday
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Anthon · Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:33 pm Post subject:

I was told by experienced people that no mantra in the world can enlighten you. This statement depends however on how one defines enlightenment. What is enlightenment after all? For me it means to fully know and feel who you are in every moment. Can this be done by some magic word that some "enlightened" guru utters into your ear? I doubt it. I have used mantras and they work but they never enlightened me. Those who strive to save and enlighten others are not so much different from religious fanatics who believe that they should should convert each and everyone to their faith. Only in this case the savior is not heaven or Jesus but some special state of being that you can ONLY reach through them. One should be careful and use common sense. Are those people actually representing what they teach? Are they happy, healthy and contented? Many times the reality is quite different.

tom502 · Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:02 pm Post subject:

I believe they help in the process of enlightenment, but stilling the mind, which is the big barrier to enlightenment. But I don't believe it's a magic word when said you suddenly become a jivanmukta. But years of practice with a mantra, and I think other assisting practices too, can lead to enlightenment, or a stage closer to it than one was before.

Anthon · Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:16 pm Post subject:

I can agree with what you said.
What I don´t agree with is when some guru comes, charges you $200, utters a word into your ear and then claims that you are a free soul from now on.

tom502 · Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:28 pm Post subject:

Yeah, that would be just charlatanism. Most gurus give their mantras and such for free. Now I can see some charge if it includes some real hands on training of a practice, maybe like TM, which I am not familiar with, but I believe it has a 2-day training. But just selling a mantra is a scam. The groups I am familiar with, Hare Krishna, Sant Mat, and Nichiren Buddhism, offer their mantras and practice for free. I did used to attend SYDA meditations, and those were free, but they did also have shaktipat intensives where they did charge some. I never did that.

Anthon · Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:00 pm Post subject:

Some time ago I had a conversation with Laura from

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She says that mantras, hypnosis and similar things are just tools to trick the mind into believing certain things. Like abundance or health.

All these tools operate within the mind. I believe that the true nature of a person is not to be found within the mind. The true Self is not part of the mind structure, this field of energetic impressions and systems. The mind is like a layer of fog that surrounds and shields us effectively from accessing our real nature. It is the prison we sit in. Many spiritual techniques just open up new rooms within this prison. The heavens and astrals are such places. They may be very beautiful but they are still within the prison. This is what I call illusory enlightenment.
Teachers who give mantras or techniques to access such places under the guise of real enlightenment are deceivers and often don´t know what they do.

Just my personal opinion.

riws · Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:44 pm Post subject:

I agree with you guys, any mantra you practice is an intermediate level sadhana. There is a stage when you go beyond just chanting.

Just receiving an mantra does not make you enlightened. But deep and intense practice can open up further paths for you.

Nice discussion.

riws · Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:46 pm Post subject:

Shouldn't this be in the religion section. I am going to make a post there about an enlightened guru I know of.

Anthon · Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:26 pm Post subject:

The yogis think that by spiritual training they can achieve enlightenment in their lifetime. Feeling blissful all the time and being in love with the whole of creation are considered signs for true enlightenment in their opinion.

I had similar experiences when I was in India and meditated with such people. I think it is a better state than operating from a state of survival and greed as many people do. On the other hand it is a form of running away from this reality. Even if they do not run away physically (although some do -> himalayas, monasteries, caves), they still run away in their minds and remain in some "state of being" that often expresses in the form of detachment or not-being-of-this-world.

riws · Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:28 pm Post subject:

Check this thread http://www.xtrememind.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=65659#65659

BTW Anthon which yogis did you interact with ? I am a kriya yogi myself.

Anthon · Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:42 pm Post subject:

Anthon · Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:58 pm Post subject:

riws · Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:16 pm Post subject:

(Maybe we can request GT for a separate Kriya Yoga thread in the religion section. Maybe the 9th post and everything below it in this thread can be moved to a separate thread in P&R in case he is reading this..)

I was initiated in a Hariharananda type of kriya almost 8 years back. There are questions about its authenticity.

Health issues are entirely disconnected from one's spiritual state or manner in which one dies. My Guru has passed on but the person who currently instructs me in kriya suffers from high diabetes. However it hardly makes a difference to me. I don't think he is taking on anyone's karmas though. It is just the mind-body which suffers.

If you are ill you have to go to a hospital, not a Guru.

Anthon · Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:27 pm Post subject:

riws · Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:36 pm Post subject: