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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:50 am    Post subject: Dumb question, just, but i have to ask Reply with quote

which is a good instruments to control the mind
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:57 am    Post subject: Re: Dumb question, just, but i have to ask Reply with quote

The Only One wrote:
which is a good instruments to control the mind


You dont want to mess around with free will.
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I'll take the adive Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only your mind can control anothers mind, but you aren't really controlling it. You are really just dropping suggestions that the target can accept or reject. Getting your thoughts to a target is only half the battle because the target always has their free will.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Couldn't have said it better myself.

You cannot rob free will. You can merely influence decisions by speaking into someone's mind/subconscious.

Same principle applies for both NLP and radionics-based thought projection.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no offend...
what is the proof of the free will?

some are killied against their will,
and here in Arabia some are capable to turn some human to goats!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must say, I also don't believe in the absolute supremacy of free will over any external force. There are tales of zombies and such.

Although I have no intention of using anything beyond ordinary suggestions on other people. That would be equivalent to "selling your soul to the Devil" - you get power, but the impact on your karma is just too severe.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't get me wrong. If you get a suggestion to your target's subconscious, that is very powerful because you bypass the conscious mind. But if what you suggest contradicts your target's beliefs, then there is a good chance that the target will reject it.

For example, If you suggest that a target kill someone, a typical person's subconscious and belief system would scream "NO!" It is unlikely that this would succeed. But if you plant a suggestion that the target loves you, then it is very likely to succeed if the target likes you in any way, since people generally believe in love.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is not difficult to influence somebody else's mind, and even bypass his freewill. the reality is that only 2% or less do have will. therefore theoretically you can potentially influence anyone, if you know how. The thing is to use some delivery vehicules and not go through their mental resistance. the trick is to not face the doorman at all which is their values and beliefs which they use as a filter and compare what u say to their own map of the world. go through the backdoor, through an approach they never knew existed. NLP has extraordinary ways to perfect that, and psychically impressing your thoughts on their subconscious with so much energy is an ultimate weapon. both together are so powerful, way too powerful to melt down 98% of people's resistance.
My best way of influencing a person against her will, is to build a strong rapport and do a criterea elicitation with high sensory acuity (NLP technique) and once I got their map of the world figured out, I use their own values to make them do what I want them to do (of course with other patterns like embedded commands, cause an effect, time distortion..etc) and not to forget the energy work being done simutaneously (like sending psi balls and visualizing them comply and go the the state you want them to) . Not only that because part of the work is done remotely. Surround yourself by chigens and cristals, sit still or lay down and go into a deep alpha state and vividly see in your mind's eye everything that you want that person doing exactly as you want him to. do it preferably when the subject is sleeping, done well with so much energy and focussed thought will make him dream and see those same thoughts you project and he accepts them as his own, therefore they don't encounter any resistance...

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While humans have free will, we often choose not to exercise the ability to make informed decisions. Rather, we make leap judgements based on cues or intuitive tags. Dr. Cialdini explains what tags these are under cute names such as Social Proof, Commitment & Consistency, Authority, Liking etc etc. (The Psychology of Influence)

By understanding these cues, we realize how our own free will is undermined by others.. and how we exploit our neighbors unwittingly.

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