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Sinan

Why not? If I could astrally project myself or perform any kind of evocation/invocation, I would certainly attempt this.The true dynamics, mechanics of the subtler energies could be better learned from entities who are using it all the time,probably avoiding the effort of trials and errors.Laziness provokes creavity.I know this is not much of a down-to-earth idea but just curiosity:)

Mr. GreenTea · Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:28 am Post subject:

You assume there are "secrets" to Radionics. There aren'.t The mysteries lay almost entirely with you. You want better radionic performance? Talk with yourself; you are the battery, lens, and wires of the radbox. It only looks external. All the works is done inside.
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Sinan · Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:23 am Post subject:

So far it seems that our minds play a major role in working radionics (cardboard rads, thought-forms, etc.) that's for sure.But I can't stop thinking the way that there is something more to that.Our reality is firstly created in our minds and radionic circuits help fixing the process but "the stuff" the reality is made of and how it transforms is to be known I think.The electromagnetic scale might be far more extended than we are aware of and who knows, maybe our brains are the antennas or superconductors of a far more subtler type of energy.Well I like to lay my back on concrete science but I think I will achieve astral projection and see if there is such a sub-plane of it full of answers to these questions rather than wait for the "wisemen" who would let me know the truth only according to their profits to give me some repeatable proof:) well in fact I can do either at the same time..

Sinan · Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:33 am Post subject:

Well I must admit when I saw Mr.Greentea and Pleiadianhealer in the same thread I worried in case of a quarrel Wink

oki just a joke.Please don't take me wrong.I appreciate both your opinions.In the end that's why I'm here:)

Mr. GreenTea · Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:06 pm Post subject:

There is a problem with how you are framing the problem. Partially it is from assuming that science is driving radionics. It isn't. Radionics, in spite of the pioneering work of Reich, is an art form, specifically Magick. While radionics is "packaged" as science, it is art, and subject to the skill and yes. creativity of the magician. The conventions and habits of using a radbox would lead you to believe otherwise, but understanding comes when you look deeper. There is no "science" to be found. The vocabulary at once shifts to "trends" and "intents" and "talking to the universe."

There is no solid science for you to lay your back on. Instead, look inside yourself. How solid is your faith in your esoteric awareness? How much to you trust your intrinsic abilities? How aware are you of the metaphysical universe around you? These are the questions that will lead to a greater understanding of manifestation and the operations of radionic devices. Stop looking to the outer world for answers. The answers are inside.
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Quotes ≠ Knowledge.
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Right ≠ number of believers.
Results show Rightness or Wrongness.
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d_redant

It is a good idea.

One I have already been exploring.

More on this later.. Its too early to say anything now.

I should add that some radionics device innovators do in fact channel their designs/tech from non-physical help/entities.

Sometimes they know..and sometimes they don't know.

With that said Radionics is in fact an art form..A Magickal one.

The intuition is a real key to setting up and broadcasting results oriented operations.

Operation of boxes rely on each individual..and as such things that can work for one person will not work for the other. It is really a personal process.

There is science behind it..and I tend to strongly think it has to do with quantum physics/mechanics..of which maybe later down the line we may get some hint of explanation of how radionics works..and why fully.

Its really two components that make up a powerful radionics/magickal adept..

The operator and the tool (machine,box,etc).

How effective the operator is and how effective the tools is are of equal importance. They both co-incide.

Working on oneself/personal development/adapting beliefs,etc will bring the best results with radionics...

And then in the end we find out that the devices were just clutches...of which some of us dont need again but we desire anyway..lol

Enough said.. Talk later.

Sinan · Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:53 pm Post subject:

Thank you for your guidance.I was so concerned with the "tools" that I disregarded what I am.Now my mind has changed.

I agree with both ideas.I think that all of us have an inherent system that we can only direct and know by interacting and using more and more.It's like we do not necessarily command our many simple actions like breathing and walking.We dont have to know our diaphram to breath we just intend and our physical body knows the complicated procedure for that to happen.Same applies in our more subtle bodies (terms get confusing here) it contains the data about the ways of the universe, our connection to it and probably our oneness with it just like our physical body knows what we need is water to drink when thirsty.So I certainly accept this Mr. Greentea if I could understand what you meant.

And look at the nature, the sacred geometry, time as we percieve it, sounds and everything.There must be a certain mathematical order even if it is far more different or more complicated or simpler in someways than the maths we have discovered and imagined so far.But there are corresspondencies and relations we realise better by time.Everything has a mathematical identity either as a result of it or the cause of it.

So there MUST be a stable logic behind all these, a system that works..whatever.
And we can understand how our insticts and intuition works within it thus enabling us to conscioussly use our intelligence to find the "real reality", the ultimate truth, shortcuts like finding a market for food instead of going out hunting instinctively(assume that you dont know what a market is but searched and learned where it can be found what a metaphor Idea

) So I also agree with d_redant.

I've started pendulum exercises to connect/face my inner "people".I hope it will prove useful.

Chii · Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:57 pm Post subject:

I recognize the radionic portion as being a sort of ritual to use your own powers, but what about orgone? Is that also coming from within? or is there an actual energy coming from it?

What is everyones opinions on that?

d_redant · Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:55 am Post subject:

yea the radionic portion is like an aspect/extension of your higher self... the orgone is a continious source of energy that is similar to energy that comes from within you... more energy is always better..

PleiadianHealer · Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:26 am Post subject:

Sinan · Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:13 pm Post subject:

I guess orgonite also acts like a radionic device with less accuracy. You program the orgonite while its curing for a certain task which later it performs better. But it can also work for something else when you connect with it to mentally and/or emotionally tell it to do so. I don't think we are the only source of orgone energy. For instance in sunlight IMO most of the orgone devices work better. I think I've read something that says if thoughts are words then radionics are pencils and orgone is paper or something like that which makes sense to me:)