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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

joeyplazo wrote:
The aim of radionics is to garner the quickest possible result with the least amount of hassle . Unlike with most other endeavors, radionics places heavier emphasis on the destination than the trip. We don't want to be lost in the maze of rituals. We want the bottomline. We want RESULTS.


Cannot be emphasized enough!
The bottomline of radionics are the MANIFESTATION RESULTS!
Nothing else matters. Excellent point Joey! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I appreciate that point.

Some people, especially Rosicrucians and Wiccans with big egos like to impress people with complex rituals so folks with low IQ will say "ooohhh ahhhhh." They think that by using metaphysical jargon, people will revere them as masters. This is stupid.

I can outperform any ritual-heavy magician with simple steps. My operations take less than 10 minutes. Is that bad? Results speak for themselves; I've achieved far more than those boastful buddies who write pentacles on the floor with fancy swords and meditate in a ring of $10 purple candles.

Simple is good. Complex is bad. The shortest distance between two points is a line. This applies to radionics, magic and mathematics.

You know what people? I've been suspicious of vendors who sold 6 dial, 9 dial, twelve dial machines, and tagged a hundred dollars per dial. Some of you shared the same opinion some time back. Methinks that adding dials is a marketing ploy to increase prices.

Give me the dial-less Elroyian machine with 12 wells and I'm happier than a stoned rap artist with groupies.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This discussion has been most fun and very informative. I see many points here and cannot disagree with any. This is not 'sitting on the fence' but the truth.

Esoteric Warrior as the answer, "Have fun", and I believe thatis where the answer lies. We are aiming to realize our desire(s), tradionalists or modernists. I did alot of ritual in the 70s and I must say, radboxes have made things so much easier, plus, they are great fun to collect Smile

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I can't speak for other "purely symbolic" type dial boxes. But this is the theory behind it.

You put your witnesses in their specific trend and target plates. You adjust the dials. Now as you do that, you're not really after the change in resistance in the potentiometers, but you are actually varying the biocosmic resonant length until you find the resonance with whatever you've put on your well. When this is achieved and you get the sticks, you will be quite certain that the length of the dials actually captures and resonates with the energy signature of whatever you tuned for. I believe the numbers (rates) don't even have anything to do with the process, they're just "markers" for the biocosmic length that you've imparted on the dials, and by necessity are different from box to box. Now again, once set, the rates stay, even as you turn your box off.

I won't debate anyone on these dials, even as I stick by them (pun intended lol). It's enough that I make and sell boxes that I believe in firmly and fully and that's enough for me even if I don't sell another box Very Happy. In fact my first energy products and hottest bestsellers were dial-less devices which brought about powerful results without the need for dials. My dial boxes are for those who want to go the next level, learn things the hard/harder way and fully understand the process without cutting corners or shortcuts. That's not to detract from other methods...it's just...different. Not necessarily superior or inferior. Kinda like a shotgun and a sniper rifle. Both will do their jobs within their operating parameters although one is superior in ease of use and firepower, the other is far superior in targetting ability. In the bigger picture, each is not necessarily inferior or superior to each other.

It's like this. When I was a teenager, I went for guitar lessons to learn how to play rock guitar. The teacher passed me through note reading and mary had a little lamb. I got pissed, asked him to bring me DIRECTLY to rock playing, which he did as he taught me the extended blues scale etc. Easy enough ! 5 notes plus one passing note ! Eventually I learned how to play rock with just that. Now as I was progressing, I had to really learn the THEORY of it all, how the notes were related to each other and the how's and why's formed a scale, harmonic and melodic relationships etc. In the end, it would have been worth it to just go the classical way and bite the bullet, notwithstanding the faster results from the "easy" way. Sure, in the long run, taking the long route could still end you playing rock guitar, but you won't be constrained anymore to the extended blues scale as your appreciation reaches a wider spectrum. You go from a Jeff Beck to an Yngwie Malmsteen. Not sure if you'd appreciate the metaphor, but that's how it goes. There's an easy way, and there's a more thorough way. With a firmer grasp and understanding of the hows and why's and not just the what's , you will be much more versatile and powerful in the application of your art. And that's why, even as I will come out with my own version of the Intent Generator computer using PIC microprocessor technology, I will never remove the dials on my Phyton. Just in case the user wanted to know the classic way, the "how" way and not just the "what" way, the dials will always be there.

By the same token as your argument with Thor, just because it's got a microprocessor doesnt infer at all that it's necessarily superior to other methods. Perhaps in another universe, Carb cars are better than EFI cars. Tell me, has your EFI car brought you home through a 3-foot high flood ? My carb car VW bug did Very Happy. Trust me, this is about radionics, not just electronics.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't use no dials no calculators, setting the trend takes me not more than 5 minutes, all I need is a strong source of energy that blasts good amounts of chi. I put a chigen in front of me with a pen and little piece of paper, meditate for few minutes untill I absorb enough energy and feel the tingling produced by the orgone spreading in my body then I visualize my desire and fully live it like I already realized it, at the pick of the enjoyment of my desire I quickly open my eyes and jot down any statment of intent, symbol, or an arbitrary rate the pops up at that moment. I fold the paper and put it on the plate and keep in charging for few hours, a day or two (it depends on the trend ) I forget about it and then come take the paper (still folded I can't see or recall exactly what I put in it) I burn it completely to release all the energy into the universe and erase my conscious mental associations, I expect with total faith that my desire will be fulfilled...

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't use dials either. I got lazy after I acquired my RAD5. All those dials man... they look so depressing. Elroy, I share your pain. Very Happy

I do things the MindPower (TM) Smile way. I get my RAD5/RAD2400 etc etc and put a picture of my target and trend right there. Then I close my eyes and brutally conjure the most vivid, most powerpacked imagery of what I want. I'd unleash all my emotion with the force of a tidal wave, a coastline wrecking tsunami. I fill myself with gratitude for knowing that I will be receiving this.

Then I walk away....

Zounds man. Hitting the jackpot this way got me more results than when I did things with dials back on the RAD2400.

hey Jobet, when will your PIC microprocessor box come out?
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Heya Henrik !

Next year. But the discrete digital (simpler) can come out by next month. It will be and off-board attachment to the Minimax, Phyton and XRB and won't have its own chigen.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Your input guys Reply with quote

runedog wrote:

Also, a Canadian friend of mine believes a radbox can be tuned/activated by the mind/desire alone with no need for dials etc. Your comments on this would be greatly appreciated.
Have fun!


Here's another thought for you. I knew a guy back in the late 90's who would build and tune the rad box mentally. He didn't feel the need for a physical rad box. He would meditate deeply. In his mind he would build the rad box from imaginary materials. His orgonite block would be a glass vessel full of pure energy. Then when it was built, he would tune it mentally. See the energy from it being focused and projected on the intent. Then voi la. He would come out of the meditative state and wait for manifestation. He seemed to get results. It all began because he wanted a really good high end device but could not afford one. In the end he preferred his technique to purchasing a device.
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Tye wrote:
I appreciate that point.
I can outperform any ritual-heavy magician with simple steps. My operations take less than 10 minutes. Is that bad? Results speak for themselves; I've achieved far more than those boastful buddies who write pentacles on the floor with fancy swords and meditate in a ring of $10 purple candles.

Simple is good. Complex is bad. The shortest distance between two points is a line. This applies to radionics, magic and mathematics.
Pictures speak louder than words.


That's true. It;'s not a new idea though. This was the foundation Karl Welz built his business on back on the 90's, "Drop the rituals and superstition, tune the machine and make the magic - be an instant Shaman." And people came flocking. I know. I was one of them. There are people I know that little or no spiritual training who have used one of these devices to shield themselves from spititual attacks from those master magicians - successfully. This stuff works. It's precisely what Karl called it - "The magic of the future."
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It won't be magic of the future for longer, pretty soon (as you can already see) things of this nature are coming into our concious reality pretty fast.

Reality is changing very rapidly...we are becoming the future.

Can you think back to the days when you knew pretty much nothing of magick? Now you can scientifically and artistically create the reality you want..taking mere minutes to set it up.

What days we live in... evolution dictates that the old be superceded and things become newer, faster and easier.
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Some people, especially Rosicrucians and Wiccans with big egos like to impress people with complex rituals so folks with low IQ will say "ooohhh ahhhhh." They think that by using metaphysical jargon, people will revere them as masters. This is stupid.

I can outperform any ritual-heavy magician with simple steps.


And why is this so? It is only because humans are unaware of the true Keys to Magick; that is not to say that I myself yet possess these Keys, only that I am aware of their nature.. And of course, continue to seek for them.

I possess certain things, but I do not liken these Keys at all to such Natural Magicks and lesser Sorceries, as they are far above such trifles.
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Tye wrote:


Some people, especially Rosicrucians and Wiccans with big egos like to impress people with complex rituals so folks with low IQ will say "ooohhh ahhhhh." They think that by using metaphysical jargon, people will revere them as masters. This is stupid.

I can outperform any ritual-heavy magician with simple steps.


And why is this so? It is only because humans are unaware of the true Keys to Magick; that is not to say that I myself yet possess these Keys, only that I am aware of their nature.. And of course, continue to seek for them.

I possess certain things, but I do not liken these Keys at all to such Natural Magicks and lesser Sorceries, as they are far above such trifles.


I agree. I too am starting to see other things. Hmmm...too far out to even mention, but yes, I'm starting to be in contact with certain beings who hold the keys. And guess what they're telling me...'YOU'RE NOT YET READY'. lol.

Things are going in that direction for me, meeting certain people that teach you a thing or two...as if synchronicity at work.
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Last night I had an idea. Using a marker to scribble a trend number on a trend plate. How's that for an idea??


better yet, make it a removable trend plate (disposable) and charge it up with negative DC after you write on it and before you connect to the circuit. Wink

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j_logan wrote:
Bandit795 wrote:
Last night I had an idea. Using a marker to scribble a trend number on a trend plate. How's that for an idea??


better yet, make it a removable trend plate (disposable) and charge it up with negative DC after you write on it and before you connect to the circuit. Wink

jon


As flexible as all of this stuff REALLY is with regards to the process - I'm sure they would both work well.
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runedog wrote:

Also, a Canadian friend of mine believes a radbox can be tuned/activated by the mind/desire alone with no need for dials etc. Your comments on this would be greatly appreciated.
Have fun!


Here's another thought for you. I knew a guy back in the late 90's who would build and tune the rad box mentally. He didn't feel the need for a physical rad box. He would meditate deeply. In his mind he would build the rad box from imaginary materials. His orgonite block would be a glass vessel full of pure energy. Then when it was built, he would tune it mentally. See the energy from it being focused and projected on the intent. Then voi la. He would come out of the meditative state and wait for manifestation. He seemed to get results. It all began because he wanted a really good high end device but could not afford one. In the end he preferred his technique to purchasing a device.


Reminds me of the amazing Mind Power Seduction ebook by Amargi Hillier.

Among different fascinating subjects he also explained how, in his opinion, it's possible to build very powerful non-phisycal radionic devices.. just with imagination. At the end, isn't everything already just in the mind? Smile
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