I am not using my "logical mind" to see spiritually. Who's to say that my 3rd eye is not already open, and I'm just now noticing it?
And excuse me, but what exactly do you think using Radionic devices to help manifest reality is regarding, "spiritual development?"
You haven't tried my method, but here you are putting down because it doesn't fit your notion of how the ability should be developed.
I have serious doubts that you even understand what constitutes a spiritual education, but hey, if you have a method that actually works, and can prove it, I might be willing to entertain a dialog with you.
Could make one wonder what's exactly the kind of vibe and contribution you intend to carry on this forum. _________________ "Do just once what others say you can't do, and you will never pay attention to their limitations again." Arthur C. Clarke
It seems you have a problem with reading as well as comprehension.
I didn't claim to have opened my 3rd eye. What I wrote was "For all I know my 3rd eye may already be open, and I am just now noticing."
What I would like to see from you are references "that using your logical mind degrades your inner mind."
While you are at it, define "inner mind", and "logical mind" and contrast this with intuition, creativity, and genius and in what disiplines you might find examples of this. I am especially interested in those people in the scientific community, whom have exhibited creativity and genius, and how you are able to tell that their "inner mind" has degraded from "overuse" of their logical mind.
Further, the devices I have built are for my own use. They are not designed for "gifting." If you read carefully [again], you can actually tell that they were designed for water charging, as in "drinking the charged water."
I am not sure why ordering various devices to help with development of [abilities of] one sort or another is, in your eyes, is frowned upon, but is sounds very much like a case of "sour grapes," in that you are not able to afford the devices and soundtracks mentioned here.
This is a forum of explorers. Not skeptics. You seem to do a lot of Laughing Out Loud however I think the joke is you..er sorry the joke is on you.
Your closed mind will stop you from ever realizing what is possible.
In the meantime, I have contributed something which others may try and possibly benefit from.
Do YOU have a technique to develop Auric Sight? If so I have yet to see it posted.
I am interested to see the results of your experimentation with technology to attain auric sight. If a copper sheet and magnet can work, I do not see why trying a different approach is bad. What is bad is not following through with an idea to find out if it is possible.
I'll do my best to provide you with the results of my experimentation. I have, you understand, just started.
I am convinced that this is not just some anomoly. After I put together my device, the effect did not appear in the finished device. I was curious, and so built another component just to see if the energy would manifest itself again.
It did.
The device itself simply has a stable "static" aura around it, so it is difficult to descern anything "unusual" about it. The energy is not "moving" so the aura is all but invisible.
I have yet to attach a pulsing unit to it so that my also be a factor.
Mr. GreenTea thanks for sharing your experiences. I find them very interesting. I can also undertand your logic about starting with a stronger visual auric source and then mirating to subtler ones.
If you get the time posting pictures of the experiment would be useful. I have also never dealt with a Xeon filled tube. If you have the time it might be useful for you to post a list of components used in the experiment magnet (shape, strength, type, etc), xeon tube (size, strength, etc), and any other items used. If you happened to buy some of your items from an internet company providing links to the exact items so others can replicate would be cool. However if they were just some local purchases then just providing enough info on the items so someone could buy something similiar would be appreciated.
I have never dealt with Xeon tubes. Are they easy to get? Are they dangerous at all (i.e. tube breaks gas is poisonous, etc).
All scientific authorities, as well as the best occultists, divide the phenomena of clairvoyance into several well-distinguished classes.
The following classification is simple, and indicates clearly the principal forms of clairvoyant phenomena:
(1) Simple Clairvoyance, in which the clairvoyant person merely senses the auric emanations of other persons, such as the auric vibrations, colors, etc.; currents of thought-vibrations, etc.; but does not see events or scenes removed in space or time from the observer.
(2) Clairvoyance in Space, in which the clairvoyant person senses scenes and events removed in space from the observer; and, often also is able to sense such things even when they are concealed or obscured by intervening material objects.
(3) Clairvoyance in Time, in which the clairvoyant person senses scenes and events which have had their original place in past time; or scenes and events which will have their original place in the future.
I shall describe each of these three classes, with their many variations, as we reach them in their proper places in these lessons. Before doing so however, I wish to explain to you the several methods by which clairvoyant vision is usually induced. These methods may be designated as follows:
(1) Psychometry, or the method of getting en rapport with the astral plane by means of some physical object connected with the person, thing, or scene about which you desire to be informed.
(2) Crystal Gazing, etc., or the method of getting en rapport with the astral plane by means of gazing into a crystal, magic mirror, etc.
(3) Clairvoyant Reverie, or the method of getting en rapport with the astral plane by means of psychic states in which the sights, sounds and thoughts of the material and physical plane are shut out of consciousness.
It is far easier to train yourself to see auras emanated from colored objects first, rather than reading the auras from a human.
The same technique, used to see the aura of colors, is used to see all other types of aura, including the human aura.
COLORED OBJECT - Auric Color of the Object
RED - Green
ORANGE - Pale Green
YELLOW - Pale Blue
GREEN - Orange
BLUE - Yellow
INDIGO - Gold
VIOLET - Pale Gold
PINK - Iridescent Green
Detailed instructions on training to see auras are available from the book Training-To-See-Auras by Robert Bruce. _________________ i2w Willpower : Being unconquerable lies with yourself. | Focus : Do not see, but watch the seeing. | Visualizations : Stretch as the boundaries of the Universe.
I saw the aura of the colors on the first few tries. It's not as hard as one might think, totally different from what I perceived in the past. Key is to use peripheral vision & never to look directly at the object you wish to observe.
Who knows what it might lead to?
PS : The RED circle has a blue/cyan rim while the BLUE circle has a pink/mild orange rim (like the colors surrounding the sun during eclipse).
Try it out! _________________ i2w Willpower : Being unconquerable lies with yourself. | Focus : Do not see, but watch the seeing. | Visualizations : Stretch as the boundaries of the Universe.
I hope we get some recent reports on those copper mirror experiments!
Using shining surfaces was referred as "Crystal Gazing" in one old occultist book. Crystal gazing also employs other materials (dependant on cultures) : water, fire, blood, crystal, glass etc. It main objective is to induce clairvoyance.
Check out my earlier posts for the book by Swami Panchadasi. _________________ i2w Willpower : Being unconquerable lies with yourself. | Focus : Do not see, but watch the seeing. | Visualizations : Stretch as the boundaries of the Universe.
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:23 am Post subject: Still cant see any Aura
I still cant see any aura despite trying several techniques suggested here. My eyes only gets tired. Anyone better luck out therecan suggest an easier way?
Are you able to see the auric colors of colored objects? This is achieveable in a short time. See my previous posts above.
BTW, seeing auras is Simple Clairvoyance. It helps to aim at something higher & more noble Meaning your real reason & your objectives.
- We have quite a few of members here with #1
(1) Simple Clairvoyance, in which the clairvoyant person merely senses the auric emanations of other persons, such as the auric vibrations, colors, etc.; currents of thought-vibrations, etc.; but does not see events or scenes removed in space or time from the observer.
- Only a selected few with #2
(2) Clairvoyance in Space, in which the clairvoyant person senses scenes and events removed in space from the observer; and, often also is able to sense such things even when they are concealed or obscured by intervening material objects.
- Unsure if any members have #3
(3) Clairvoyance in Time, in which the clairvoyant person senses scenes and events which have had their original place in past time; or scenes and events which will have their original place in the future.
Some discussion from bwgen.com
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23-Oct-2006, Katy
Just ignore BAM the loser who hasnt got a clue about this sort of thing and will never progress spiritually because he or she doesn't beleive in it.
Raja I wouldn't bother downloading this file as it wont help you. You have to practice yourself without any media.
If you want to open your third eye it takes alot of practice and it wont happen over night.
A good and effective way to achieve it is to make a MANDALA first, which is just a piece of white paper or card with a mat finish the size of A1, and a piece of black card also with a mat finish 10 by 10 cm in size and stick that right in the middle of it.Before looking at it, do a breathing exercise for 5 mins.
In through the nose for 4 seconds, hold for 2, and out through the mouth for 4 seconds. Then sit about 60 cm away from it and stare at the black square for 10 mins.
Be sure to stare at all 4 sides of the black square. After about 30 seconds or more u will notice a white tinge around the black square, this is normal.
Whatever happens stay focused on all sides of the square and dont become distracted, where earplugs if that helps. Try not to blink much, it wont damage your eyes if u dont blink infact its good for them.
After a few minutes you may start to feel slightly hipnotized, once again this is normal. Most likely you will start to see floating colours, like purple or blue orbs morphing around. If that happens acknolage it but keep focused up on the black square.
Also you may feel heat in some places, dont discard those feelings as being like - oh it must be how I am sat, because that would be your mind trying to convinse you it is nothing, but just ignore those thoughts.
After the 10 mins is over, close your eyes and go over what you experienced. You'll notice that you can still see the black square with your eyes shut, now it's a yellow colour.
It helps to write down your experience aswell. After you've done that, lie down and close your eyes. Visualise your self with a cape wrapped around you made of a bright light, and say (not out loud)I am safe and protected.
This keeps you safe from negative entities. Next do a breathing exercise for 5 mins. Breathe in for 4 seconds hold for 2 and breathe out for 4.
Then before you open your eyes be aware of where you are. Listen to sounds outside, the birds or whatever you can hear. Next bring your attention inside the room, listen to the sounds inside.
Smell the air, taste the air, feel the ground beneath you. Then slowly open your eyes. Do these exercises each day and you'll see the results! It will only take about 20 minutes.
Please, if you want to open your third eye do these exercises. It can also affect your dreams and make it easier to astral travel aswell.
Good luck
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24-Jun-2006, Kirskan_Psion
I have some tips for all of the people that . . . seem to know absolutely nothing about this subject.
1: The "third eye" is the brow chakra. It is of indigo color, vibrationally, when the electromagnetic waves emitted from it are hit by light. It is of "higher awareness", and is commonly thought of as the area of the brain that is adept to manipulating the subtle wave patterns of our body. (Electromagnetic waves.)
2: You cannot "open" the third eye. "Third eye" is simply a term. Nothing more. It's slang. It's not literally an eye, and it can't literally be opened. It is always present and always working, especially when we sleep. It is of EXTREMELY low activity because of dormant knowledge of the subject.
People don't "use their brains" anymore, and thus, we have begun to adapt to not exactly "needing" it anymore. It's only an unworked part of the brain, for most people...but at the same time, it's essential in all aspects of health.
3: Animals have a higher sensitivity to electromagnetically contained information and the frequency of waves and visualization of auras. I'm sure most of you have been around animals or are around them often.
They can tell what sort of a mood you're in most of the time. We have developed a highly conscious outlook on life to adapt to the world around us, and they have their own adaptations as well. No, they aren't as CONSCIOUSLY intelligent as us...but they're all the same "aware". Ever heard of animal rescues, even though the animals shouldn't have known what was going on?
Ever heard of animals scattering hours before anything could have been detected by physical means (even sound or vibration), and then some sort of cataclysmic event takes place? Say...a hurricane, earthquake, huge storm, or volcanic erruption? EVEN BEFORE MACHINES COULD HAVE POSSIBLY DETECTED ANY DISTURBANCE? Ever heard of wales and birds communicating with their groups without making a sound?
Knowing what to do? I know for one that geese have been shown to be able to communicate over distances of miles and miles without making a sound. They react to stimuli the other birds are subject to.
SAME with DNA. Tests show that if there's living DNA from a person taken halfway across the world and incubated and kept alive, and the person who it belongs to is subject to stress, the DNA recoils and becomes very tense, just like the person and his attached DNA.
If the person becomes relaxed, then the DNA over that distance INSTANTLY (without even the slightest "radio-like" delay) relaxes and does what it's suppose to do according to the human body and its atached DNA.
Take those as examples of what the "third eye" is in charge of.
4: This preset DOES NOT "open" the eye. It simply creates a good mental environment for you to be able to open it yourself. It helps with concentration, and hell, may even act as a placebo effect. It helps YOU acheive results. It won't do anything for you alone.
Thus, listening to the sounds contained within this file will NOT turn you into a highly aware psychic being. No amount of listening will. You have to put effort into it, and keep in mind that everything is highly scientific and real, even if people that know nothing of the science of it claim it's real as well. : )
5: In order to train your abilities, you have to put a lot of effort into it. Some people say it takes over 2 years, and some people say they've gained noticable abilities within weeks. People are different. I've personally been very aware of electromagnetic frequencies and have personally been moderately clairvoyant for most of my life.
It was in my genetics to have kept this ability, as my ancestors and family down the line have made use of it, whether with or without knowledge of their own abilities. Some people have adopted a purely PHYSICAL life, and thus their after-line of family is going to be less prone to gain their ancestors' abilities back. For me, it took under a month.
For people whos fathers and grandfathers and great great great grand fathers were "lab rats" and "school nerds", believing nothing of this ability or the possibility of it and shutting off all conscious will to keep it or train it at all...it could take years.
My close relatives were the native Cheroke Indians, and so I expect my retained abilities must have been partly cause of this. They were a highly open-minded and experimental tribe. Very spiritually adept, as well.
6: Don't fall for training programs. They're great for motivation (you put a ton of money into them...why wouldn't they be...?), but otherwise teach little to nothing different than FREE training sites like www.psipog.com.
Over all, if you can find a site that explains the TECHNICAL and SCIENTIFIC approach, techniques, and explanations...you'll be set to learn.
Requirements: (IN ORDER!)
-Open mind. Learn of it and the science. Become aware of the truth. It is real, and it can be trained. Until you TRULY believe this, you'll make minimal progress.
-Right reasons. If you don't have good reasons, you'll be a slow learned as well. The brain is logical. If you don't have a reason, it won't waste the space.
If you want to learn it JUST to learn it, or JUST to show someone you were right, or JUST to move a salt shaker across a table in a year or two...you're in it for the wrong reasons, and I can promise you that you'll make almost no progress over a long period of time.
Most clairvoyant men and women have developed skills because of their want and/or need to HELP other people, or help other things and creatures. To contribute and to balance. Did you know that even the most well trained reiki (energetic healers - electromagnetism) practitioners had one thing in common, all throughout the world?
They wanted to HELP people, first and foremost. Yes, some of them wanted to help people and gain money, but then again, do you think they would have been interested in the field of professinal energy healing if there was no money promised? Probably. It's not like you'll (on average) get a ton coming in from it anyway.
Out of all the people that wish to be energetically balanced in our world, 3/4s of them are either pinching pennies or completely broke. Know why? They also believe in wholsitic medicine, and have spent much of their income on safe, organic and alternative foods and health care supplies. : P True, and kind of funny to note.
-Patience. With patience, even the worst training steps can lead to success. WITHOUT patience, you'll get ALMOST nowhere. Heck, if you have horrible patience, you're likely to quit all together. Be patient. Sometimes people don't see results for months. Nothing at all but headaches. Keep in mind that like any part of the body, the brain takes time, rest, and nurishment to develope. Have patience, and you'll go far.
-Right training. Start very small. Start with the logical aspects and logical reason. Go to deep thought training. This means, pick a subject and think deeply about it.
Rule out all physical, mechanical aspects that have been fed to you by society from birth, and think about it deeply and logically. Do this for around 3 days to a week. This helps to prepare your brain for more strenuous activity, even in other areas.
Now, once this is over with and you feel you are comfortable with thinking outside of the box and deeply, go to relaxation meditation and visualization meditation.
You can find instructions on all reiki sites and MANY psionics/psychic training sites for free. Most instructions are very similar, and you should pick the ones that seem easiest to udnerstand for youself.
They all basically work the same way and in the same amount of time. There is, of course, variation in time it takes and concentration required between individuals.
Do ONLY this for at least one or two weeks, and then move on to basic technique builders for what you wish to accomplish.
Telekinesis is common to wish for, as is clairvoyance. If you want to train telekinesis, you MUST use one of the following devices.
They work wonders: Psiwheel, toothpick-in-water, cork-in-water, cheap compass, electronic-audio-gauge-thingy (haha...don't know the name. They measure the frequency and current of the sound being fed through the speakers of a larger sound system and appear to be a needle bobbing up and down around a circular glass covered gauge that measures the output.), etc.
ANYTHING that moves very very easily with little friction should work, and those gauges I mentioned practically move without you trying. It's not static, either. It's your basic electromagnetic composition. Wet your entire body and constantly hold a metal bar to the ground. It'll still move, because it's NOT static. : )
If you wish to train in clairvoyancy, begin with something simple. There are things on the internet that are great for this, but my person favorite has always been to learn how to use tarrot cards.
If you think tarrot cards are evil and wish not to "dable" (even though they're only common divination tools...), then substitute them for regular playing cards that are highly distinguishable...like, dark black and bright red colors with completely opposite pictures, or no pictures at all (casino-grade is great).
Now, the easiest way to start is to start going through the deck and identifying the colors (of playing cards). It'll look completely random from time to time, but the trick is...you have to TRICK youself. Yes, you do.
Every time you get more than half of them right (have a righ and wrong pile), praise yourself and give yourself a pat on the back. If you're a hopelessly food addicted type, give yourself a treat every time.
If you're the sexual type...then...well, treat yourself. If you find enjoyment in getting more than half correct already, then verbally thank yourself and be extra happy about it, blaming it on YOU and not "chance" (which, logically, doesn't even exist...).
If you wish to train in something else, there are links and sites everywhere. Try them all out, and make sure to get multiple sources of information.
Sources that use the word Kundalini and Chi are quite often better sources than others, as they have at least SOME basis of realistic, ancient, proven and practiced information contained within them.
Over all, people, you should never, ever, ever use any abilities that you develope to aid a skeptic. I know this sounds "expected", if you ARE a skeptic, but think of it.
Skeptics are most commonly the types to abuse knowledge. If we allow them the chance to abuse such a tender practice as this, what have we, ourselves, accomplished?
The people that matter already believe in or know of this sort of thing. Right now, we have a ton of research done on it daily, and a ton of devices used to amplify or judge our electromagnetic abilities. It never reaches the news, because no one really believes or cares. In mainstream media, it's a joke.
The skeptics think I'm saying this because I can't do anything to prove it to them, and I'm saying this because I've worked so hard on it and learned so much about it through my own training that it's not worth the time and effort required to prove to someone else what it is and how to use it if they're only going to abuse it.
Most of you will try and give up within less than a week, and the rest of you will most likely only succeed minimally, because you're young and wish only to impress others. For those that actually go through the correct process and learn well the advanced ways of Maric Manipulation (mara being the electromagnetic, vibratory signals of our body...),
I hope you serve others as both friend and client, and yourself and your own dignity by keeping this information between you and those who actually have the will and promise to learn and spread the knowledge.
"A skeptic is like a rock. No matter how much water flows over them, they remain sturdy and still in composition."
This goes for all things...
Good luck to ALL who wish to try to develope their brain in such a way as to revive lost techniques of the mind. You have full permission to copy this message and paste it or replace it anywhere you wish, of course, but please do so in its entirety, and with my signature ending.
"Reality is but the willing perception of physical stimulation by an individual, and thus, in essence, ceases to exist."
Memento Mori - Kirska
_________________ i2w Willpower : Being unconquerable lies with yourself. | Focus : Do not see, but watch the seeing. | Visualizations : Stretch as the boundaries of the Universe.
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